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Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

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Diversity is useful though. Stocks have crashed in the past, and they will in the future. As has real estate and every other investment. You thus need a backup plan in case your investment fails. I make no attempt to predict WHEN these crashes will happen, or how big they will be.

What people tend look at when they consider diversity doesn't work. The standard approach is to look for asset classes with uncorrelated returns. The problem that happens is most asset classes become correlated in a downturn. Look at what happened a year ago. If you had a split between ETFs, REITs and some crypto currency none of those investments would have been doing well.

>The problem that happens is most asset classes become correlated in a downturn.

I tend to think it's not worth it to try to hedge against that unless know you're going to need hard cash for a specific purpose during a recession, like meeting payroll in your own company.

My ide of diversifying is to hedge against industry-specific risks like space launches if Kessler syndrom hits, internal combustion tech if the ICE car ban becomes reality, real estate if the Detroit scenario happens, etc.

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My advice is this: Think about your unique domain knowledge. Ask yourself: * What do I know that gives me an advantage over the average joe? * What other resources do I have that give me an advantage over the average joe? Generally speaking, if your idea to make money sounds really lame, boring, risky, complicated and/or esoteric to an uneducated layperson - but due to your domain knowledge you know that it's not - y…

"What do I know that gives me an advantage over the average joe? What other resources do I have that give me an advantage over the average joe?" What if my answers are none and none?

Some of the best advice I've ever heard regarding this is that you don't have to be an expert, you just have to know a little bit more than someone else. So take whatever you've recently learned, write it up, package and sell that. People tend to overestimate the level of knowledge required to sell advice. People pay for beginner level courses all the time.

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My advice is this: Think about your unique domain knowledge. Ask yourself: * What do I know that gives me an advantage over the average joe? * What other resources do I have that give me an advantage over the average joe? Generally speaking, if your idea to make money sounds really lame, boring, risky, complicated and/or esoteric to an uneducated layperson - but due to your domain knowledge you know that it's not - y…

"What do I know that gives me an advantage over the average joe? What other resources do I have that give me an advantage over the average joe?" What if my answers are none and none?

Chances are, you're not thinking about it hard enough.

If you truly think you have nothing to offer, then start acquiring something to offer. Put in the hard work and thought into acquiring specialized skills and relationships with people. It takes time (usually a lot of it), but it is not complicated.

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On the one hand, I agree. On the other, Sturgeon's law. Surely you remember how terrible most of the books were in the tech section of B&N or Borders. Why should some publishing house that published a bunch of "X For Dummies" books be the only ones in on the game?

O’Reilly has been publishing good tech books for decades with books often written by a top subject matter expert.

I have lots of those books. They are among the 10% of books that aren't crap.

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

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I’m doing some eBay arbitrage for about $200 a month profit but I’m just starting. I call it arbitrage as I buy at consumer prices from a store online and sell on eBay for a profit. I profit even when paying listing fees, shipping and PayPal fees.

how does this work in practice? do people not realize they are paying above the store price?

I mean, people also don't go checking around every sale for items. But I would be curious to know what lengths OP goes to to identify items.

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post #138

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Sincere question: why is this better than going with the vast array of mutual funds and ETFs available? Is it the return rate? Something else? It seems like your typical ETF or mutual fund is easier to get into and get out of, just a few clicks on your brokerage of choice. Your answer brought up the obvious general answer: the only way to make passive income from investments is to already have a lot of money. To me t…

I looked into syndication and commercial real estate earlier this year. My primary motivation was to diversify my holdings. I ultimately bought a house where I could rent rooms out on airbnb or to renters instead of going with a syndication. The main factor was getting leverage: a 30 year mortgage at 2.8% APY is basically free money. Airbnb is not passive, but I look at it this way: I'm going to live in a house anywa…

The leverage makes a lot of sense.

I do assume you can’t just take out a loan to join a syndication, but lots of people rent duplex units and vacation homes as you describe. Thanks for the answer!

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I have been part of feinternational for sometime and saw their prospectuses. In general, if there is an existing user base, then the price factors it in already. You must have a plan and ability to increase the userbase in order to get a return on investment. Otherwise, some competitor may simply attract your customers and you are doomed.

It works very well if you are already the bigger competitor :-)

Agreed. But I was talking from perspective of being a passive business for a single person

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post #213

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"What do I know that gives me an advantage over the average joe? What other resources do I have that give me an advantage over the average joe?" What if my answers are none and none?

Chances are, you're not thinking about it hard enough. If you truly think you have nothing to offer, then start acquiring something to offer. Put in the hard work and thought into acquiring specialized skills and relationships with people. It takes time (usually a lot of it), but it is not complicated.

Eh, I've done that in the past and it didn't mean anything. They just outsourced the tech/system that I became an expert at. You need luck in addition to expertise, and that's something I can't control.

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post #138

Buying real estate for short-term or long-term rentals is buying yourself a second job. If you want something more passive, consider investing in several different real estate syndications. You can find them on CrowdStreet or FundRise although I believe you will get into better deals if you join a local investor group and learn from the experienced members. If there isn't a group near you, I'm enjoying participating…

Sincere question: why is this better than going with the vast array of mutual funds and ETFs available? Is it the return rate? Something else? It seems like your typical ETF or mutual fund is easier to get into and get out of, just a few clicks on your brokerage of choice. Your answer brought up the obvious general answer: the only way to make passive income from investments is to already have a lot of money. To me t…

You are correct that an ETF can provide similar exposure with much better liquidity (ease of getting in and out).

A few possible reasons to go private: a) smaller and more entrepreneurial operators can produce better returns b) capturing the illiquidity premium.

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