Does it track things that were on the front page but were flagged? I've been looking for that.
It would be cool to see what popular posts are flagged off the homepage.
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#33I did that for reddit in 2016. Especcially with /r/the_donald. Funny to watch the steep hill for every upvoted thread after 30 mins or so: 5 minutes of massive bot action with 2000-5000 upvotes and than flat again.
If the graphs are publicly visible anywhere it'd be interesting to have a look
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed...going even further, I think ~collective observation, analysis, and self/meta-reflection of the internet hivemind/zeitgeist/simulation/matrix could be a huge new internet platform space...and not just popular and fun/interesting, but I truly believe that the near total absence of skilled self-reflection is just what the doctor ordered for the period of social and political polarization that we find ourselves…
> Do you know of anything along the lines of what I'm describing here I'm only aware of organizations that have a business incentive to influence at-scale sensemaking or decisions, so their analysis is private, and their public participation is often unattributable and oriented towards a specific side/outcome. Examples could include Cambridge Analytica, public-private partnerships on semi-automated data analytics for…
> I'm only aware of organizations that have a business incentive...
Ya, that's a huge part of the problem in the world today, making the world a better place typically doesn't pay too well (despite there being potentially massive value realized to society), but engaging in harmful activities often pays nicely. And on top of it, our governments seem to be fairly clueless, if they even care beyond political opportunism.
> The most successful historical examples have been some decentralized combination of human moderation, participant voting and usually-private analytics tools available to moderators. Over time, we've seen the most successful communities move towards increased transparency of manual moderation. Independent, adversarial analytics (e.g. hnrankings or this tool) provide valuable feedback to both users and moderators.
Ya, extremely well thought out self-moderation towards establishing of a very deliberate community culture is something that I would like to see tried, all within a community who's goal is not just having fun discussing some niche topic, but rather with the explicit goal of analyzing at scale the collective behavior (and the underlying thinking that powers it) within our increasingly chaotic societies. Maybe I'm excessively pessimistic, but I look at the conversations I see online (including here at HN, in threads on culture war topics) and it makes me very concerned for where this world is going to be 10 to 30 years from now.
> Kialo looks fun, thanks for the pointer. Do you know their business model?
No idea....developing a functional business model for such a community would probably be much harder than normal...but then there shouldn't be a need for money beyond eventual wages and operational expenses...the value is in what it would bring to society, and I believe there are plenty of people out there still that can appreciate the importance of such ideas.
Re: Show HN: I made a tool to track the upvote/ranking history of HN submissions
#35Does it track things that were on the front page but were flagged? I've been looking for that.
It would be cool to see what popular posts are flagged off the homepage.
You can often find these by going to: https://news.ycombinator.com/active
This view of HN more heavily weights articles that generate robust discussions. I often find interesting stuff here that only briefly made it to the front page (due to flags or due to HN's "flamewar detector").
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do you know of anything along the lines of what I'm describing here I'm only aware of organizations that have a business incentive to influence at-scale sensemaking or decisions, so their analysis is private, and their public participation is often unattributable and oriented towards a specific side/outcome. Examples could include Cambridge Analytica, public-private partnerships on semi-automated data analytics for…
> I'm only aware of organizations that have a business incentive... Ya, that's a huge part of the problem in the world today, making the world a better place typically doesn't pay too well (despite there being potentially massive value realized to society), but engaging in harmful activities often pays nicely. And on top of it , our governments seem to be fairly clueless, if they even care beyond political opportunis…
There is also https://web.hypothes.is/ which has been working on web-annotation standards for several years. They used to be loosely affiliated with Archive.org. Looks like they are now focused on academic systems.