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Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Trends are trendy, film at 11.

So maybe one tenth of one percent of marketing people have an original idea in their heads. This is nothing new.

Trends serve a use, which is to remind us of exactly this fact. Whenever we paeans are told that we can't contribute a product idea, because the big ideas have to come from the big idea people, or that design concepts stem from "research," a trend comes along and reassures us that we're all equals after all.

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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This is from January, there's other articles around mentioning this trend Here's another angle: It's Killing Brands https://www.aleksandrhovhannisyan.com/blog/blue-people-illus...

Similarly: https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/dont-worry-these-gangley-armed-...

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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The trend is real but it is also pretty innocuous. I know that design people think that these things influence collective consciousness in a deep way but really it is just another cog in the wheel. In my personal experience, the primary reason that design teams prefer this style is that it is able to clearly represent a diverse and inclusive audience. Inclusivity and diversity are very important goals for most Americ…

It lets companies look diverse without being diverse, yeah.

A subtle distinction here: The goal is not for the company to look diverse but rather for the product/service to appeal to a diverse customer/user base. This is a formidable design challenge. Depicting the full range of human life is not really possible with half a dozen images. The solution that everyone has landed on is to lower the fidelity of the representation. If we get rid of photorealism, 3d features, texture and other high resolution features, then a single illustration can encompass a much greater slice of humanity than a photograph could. I'm sure that there are other solutions to this design problem but I don't think that anything will replace the Memphis aesthetic until people understand the needs that led to its ubiquity. Any alternative aesthetic will need to satisfy the same basic business requirements.

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> “From a design point of view, it’s pretty lazy,” says Hurley. I love designers criticizing design used for business. It rarely incorporates any perspective on business objectives. As long as the design is achieving its goal then who cares?

Who cares is the people who have to experience the design which doesn’t stand on its own (i.e. customers or users).

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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The trend is real but it is also pretty innocuous. I know that design people think that these things influence collective consciousness in a deep way but really it is just another cog in the wheel. In my personal experience, the primary reason that design teams prefer this style is that it is able to clearly represent a diverse and inclusive audience. Inclusivity and diversity are very important goals for most Americ…

It lets companies look diverse without being diverse, yeah.

Chicken and egg. If you're a company that isn't very diverse but is trying to change that, a good first step is to present diversity. If that's the ONLY step, then sure go ahead and drag them, but it's not bad on its face.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can probably trace some influence even further back to webTV. Check out its flat "10-foot UI" from 1999: https://youtu.be/eHJN9cMo4P4?t=156 Microsoft's UltimateTV set-top-box hardware group got folded into the Xbox division in 2002: https://www.mrt.com/news/article/Microsoft-to-Eliminate-TV-D... And then in 2006 (per Wikipedia), "Xbox 360 overseer J Allard ran the [Toshiba Gigabeat 1089] project, codename…

> Check out its flat "10-foot UI" from 1999 That doesn't look flat whatsoever. There are plenty of three-dimensional layout elements in that UI.

Are you currently ten feet away from a fuzzy 24” consumer CRT television?

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

reminds me of the now-infamous Pepsi "Breathtaking" design document https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

I’ve never heard of this before. It’s an elaborate parody... right?

It is absolutely real [1][2], and was quite the scandal at the time. If the reporting is to be believed, PepsiCo paid about $1 million for the branding strategy. All to arrive at a blob that looks like a fat person with a red shirt and blue pants separating from each other at the waistline [3]. So yes, it is a bit unreal.

[1] https://adage.com/article/agency-news/breathtaking-word-purp...

[2] https://www.fastcompany.com/1160304/pepsi-logo-design-brief-...

[3] https://www.cannotunsee.net/post/730928004/pepsi

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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I hate Corporate Memphis as much as the next person but > “Isometric perspective is interesting, because nothing recedes to a vanishing point,” Rudnick says, “and therefore it also eliminates the variable of time.” He points out that this type of design is particularly popular with fintech and mortgage companies – playing down the passage of time is particularly advantageous to firms selling financial products that y…

reminds me of the now-infamous Pepsi "Breathtaking" design document https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

I love this, true modern art. My favorite bit is on page 26, illustrating the "gravitational pull of Pepsi".

Is it just me, or do all the pepsi logos look like second place? I can't see them from a blank slate, but the smooth curves and contrasting colors scream #2 to me.

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A lot of the reason for these design trends is that no one has the courage to think differently, so you get huge numbers of companies all looking virtually identical. It's a bit like 'nobody gets fired for buying IBM/McKinsey' etc...no one challenges product managers and marketing when yet another adobe illustrator generated Memphis style brand identity & UI is unveiled, complete with multi cultural inclusive visual…

I wonder perhaps too if the more prestigious resumes start coming from companies that embrace these trends, further reinforcing them across industry.

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Someone sent this around a few weeks ago - it's a lot more harsh/critical: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/04/15/a-primer-on-corporate... > Merrill: I think Facebook is probably the biggest example of it. They went through a phase where they were using this style universally. And, you know, they are one of the darkest companies as far as how they’re using that customer data. And it is all about this idea of, “Trust…

My immediate thought was of rhetorical training in the ancient world. On the one hand, training in rhetoric will help you persuade, and on the other, will also help you become aware when someone else is using those techniques.

One of the five parts of rhetoric was called "ethos", which is concerned with how to establish yourself with your audience as trustworthy and sympathetic. In advertising, lots of elements beyond mere words are employed to establish ethos, visual style, sound, editing.

But I suppose I never explicitly considered the visual display of an application as an exercise in rhetoric, though upon reflection, it certainly can be. Perhaps we all need visual-rhetorical training.

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