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I dunno. My friend is making $250K working for Roblox. He’s 15yrs into his career - all game dev. Doesn’t seem too bad.

Good for him. But that's an exception. How much does the average roblox dev make?

You can see for yourself here: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Roblox/salaries/Software-Engi...

IC1 Software Engineer (Entry Level) $221k

IC2 $249k

IC3 Senior Software Engineer $285k

IC5 Principal Software Engineer $422k

Re: Game developers sharing their salaries on Twitter

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I dunno. My friend is making $250K working for Roblox. He’s 15yrs into his career - all game dev. Doesn’t seem too bad.

That's great, but most FAANG eng make more than that by their 2nd or 3rd year. With 15 years of experience, they could be making at least 500k+. edit: for the skeptical, this is what an L4 makes at Google[1], L4 is easily attainable within 3 years, pretty likely in 2 years, that's assuming you start at L3 (straight out of college or very little experience). 1: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-E…

Citation? Even in the Bay Area the median is considered somewhere around $150k.

Re: Game developers sharing their salaries on Twitter

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That's great, but most FAANG eng make more than that by their 2nd or 3rd year. With 15 years of experience, they could be making at least 500k+. edit: for the skeptical, this is what an L4 makes at Google[1], L4 is easily attainable within 3 years, pretty likely in 2 years, that's assuming you start at L3 (straight out of college or very little experience). 1: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-E…

Most FAANG eng in their 2nd or 3rd year are not FAANG anymore by their 15th year.

I've had plenty of coworkers who've been at Google or Apple for longer than 15 years, but what I've seen is people will usually jump after 4 years for even more comp or go the startup route. So those FAANG salaries are like the lower bound for most. Of course, some people will just save/invest and retire after 6-10 years, that's fine too.

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Why in the world is software money so terrible in the UK? I always look up salaries and cost of living when traveling and the UK was one of the more surprising instances of that. It seems like the only way to live comfortably in London is in finance.

Software salaries aren't terrible in the UK, they're just not as crazy as the US. Most decent software engineers I know are comfortable in the 80th percentile of income or higher.

I don't think software is terrible anywhere in the world, compared to local pay level. In many parts it's not at top, but it always decent. USA is just outlier. In other places it is comparable or slightly above other engineering disciplines...

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My standard advice to every graduate CS student is to stay the hell away from professional video game development. If you want to make games, turn it into a hobby instead.

I say the same about art and music to my nieces and nephews: when you make art, people will really appreciate it, but you won't earn much financial currency - you will earn a different kind of currency...a social currency, which you can exchange for other things, but not rent.

So make art as a hobby or as a way to meet people, but not for money. The same applies to game development, which is art.

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I dunno. My friend is making $250K working for Roblox. He’s 15yrs into his career - all game dev. Doesn’t seem too bad.

I was shocked at the pay at Roblox. I was on levels.fyi the other day and came across a list of companies with the highest pay for new grads and it was in the top five I believe.

This is because of recent IPO inflating TC

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That's great, but most FAANG eng make more than that by their 2nd or 3rd year. With 15 years of experience, they could be making at least 500k+. edit: for the skeptical, this is what an L4 makes at Google[1], L4 is easily attainable within 3 years, pretty likely in 2 years, that's assuming you start at L3 (straight out of college or very little experience). 1: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-E…

Citation? Even in the Bay Area the median is considered somewhere around $150k.

I've worked at one of the FAANG for 6+ years, have coworkers/friends at each one of them and people openly talk/compare their compensations.

edit: I'm not surprised about the median, big tech has roughly around ~200-300k engineers, probably slightly less of it in Bay Area which has a population of ~7.7M, so it probably doesn't affect statistics all that much.

Re: Game developers sharing their salaries on Twitter

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I think you'll have a hard time sourcing that claim.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/07301... The top 5 appear to be teachers, steelworkers, public service workers, autoworkers, and electrical workers. How many of these would you describe as "unskilled"?

Eh yeah, you're right. I was really thinking about white collar vs blue collar unions.

Re: Game developers sharing their salaries on Twitter

#100
being a game dev. seems like the worst tech job: few perks, minimal promotion opportunity, no ipo riches, no buyout riches, no lucrative stock options, high failure rate, low pay relative to revenues and exec pay, long hours, no credit, low salary cap, etc.
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