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Re: eBPF on Windows

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

coolspot wrote: post #2

And that is, kids, how MS Windows piece-by-piece was slowly transformed into a Linux distro.

I recently spun up a Windows EC2 server instance in aws, running the latest Windows, and was not impressed. The entire system is not very well set up for operation via SSH.

SSH is not even enabled by default on ec2. You have to Remote Desktop in, run a bunch of commands to enable it, and even then I could never figure out how to get authorized_keys to work.

Once you have SSH running, you can run commands via command prompt or powershell. Powershell is apparently pretty modern and well designed, but it's quite confusing if you're used to Unix.

A few applications I tried to install came as MSI's and they could not be installed via the command line, requiring the graphical interface.

It felt like a bad way to run a server. You want fast and lightweight remote access on a server, and you want scriptability. Windows was simply worse in this area.

Even if Windows was 100% compatible with Linux apps (including the modern CUDA deep learning stack...), I don't know why one would ever want to run Windows on a server. It lost the mindshare war, and I really see why. It really is that bad of an experience.

The main reason I've heard people use Windows server is because they are forced to because of app compatibility (no tech startup would find themselves in this position), or the preference of maintaining a server with clicking in the GUI (again, not a place most of us here find ourselves).

Anyways, I'd love to hear from someone, anyone, who likes Windows server more than Linux.

The point of this comment is also to state the opinion that Windows is currently a very bad Linux distro.

Re: eBPF on Windows

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Post by bostonsre »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3
coolspot wrote: post #2

And that is, kids, how MS Windows piece-by-piece was slowly transformed into a Linux distro.

I recently spun up a Windows EC2 server instance in aws, running the latest Windows, and was not impressed. The entire system is not very well set up for operation via SSH. SSH is not even enabled by default on ec2. You have to Remote Desktop in, run a bunch of commands to enable it, and even then I could never figure out how to get authorized_keys to work. Once you have SSH running, you can run commands via command…

I don't use it in production but yea, I've read that automation for windows servers is mainly geared toward management with powershell. It's been a while since I've used it and it's definitely a lot different than bash, but it seemed petty elegant when I used it last. I like objected oriented programming, so having an object oriented shell was pretty neat.

Re: eBPF on Windows

#5

Post by encryptluks2 »

coolspot wrote: post #2

And that is, kids, how MS Windows piece-by-piece was slowly transformed into a Linux distro.

They implement Linux functionality enough to suck at it and then the Windows users that try it thinks it is Linux that sucks and not Windows.

Re: eBPF on Windows

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Post by nont »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3
coolspot wrote: post #2

And that is, kids, how MS Windows piece-by-piece was slowly transformed into a Linux distro.

I recently spun up a Windows EC2 server instance in aws, running the latest Windows, and was not impressed. The entire system is not very well set up for operation via SSH. SSH is not even enabled by default on ec2. You have to Remote Desktop in, run a bunch of commands to enable it, and even then I could never figure out how to get authorized_keys to work. Once you have SSH running, you can run commands via command…

I think mostly they're forced to use Windows server because of their proprietary software like outlook, active directory, iis etc.

It was maybe easier to find people to support Windows servers... Just click here here and here to install.

Re: eBPF on Windows

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Post by recursive »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3
coolspot wrote: post #2

And that is, kids, how MS Windows piece-by-piece was slowly transformed into a Linux distro.

I recently spun up a Windows EC2 server instance in aws, running the latest Windows, and was not impressed. The entire system is not very well set up for operation via SSH. SSH is not even enabled by default on ec2. You have to Remote Desktop in, run a bunch of commands to enable it, and even then I could never figure out how to get authorized_keys to work. Once you have SSH running, you can run commands via command…

I don't have much experience with Linux. All our customers (health care, mostly US) have Windows servers. Some of them have some Linux also, but that seems to be a minority. We need to be able to ship software they can run. Most of our development is windows-based.
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