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The Animal Is Tired

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Re: The Animal Is Tired

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For many people, there's a lot they can do to turn back the clock if they wish to do so. Sometimes it's just knowing what's possible.

In my thirties, I was so consumed with career that I let my health go, I was very overweight, didn't exercise and just put all my focus into work and getting ahead. I developed all types of health problems and pictures of me from that time look like a fat old baby with a beard. It didn't help that I was still wearing clothes from the 90's. Quite embarrassing and I keep pictures from that era buried deep deep below the earth's mantle :)

At age 40, I was recently out of a long-term relationship and moved to a new place and decided to get my health in order. I fixed my diet, started working out, updated my wardrobe, prioritized sleep, etc.

Over the next year, I dropped the extra weight, put on quite a bit of muscle, dressed for the correct era, and overall re-made myself.

A nice surprise was that losing weight and getting in shape resolved nearly all my health issues. I felt like I was in my twenties again - which was a small miracle since I felt like I was a senior citizen in my thirties.

Naturally, my mood and confidence improved. I was dating again, and quickly realized that sexiness-gap is much more of a factor than age-gap. If there's no age-gap, but you're waaaay less sexy than someone else, society will have a problem with it. But even if there's a large age gap, and you are both at similar levels of "sexy", then society accepts it quite readily. Not saying that is good or bad - it's just how our modern society seems to be and was something surprising to me.

Here are some things that helped me:

* Set the barrier to working out as low as possible. I used resistance-bands at home. It's surprising how much muscle you can put on with resistance-bands. Set yourself up for success - it's a much lower hurdle to working out if you can just roll out of bed and workout in your underwear while listening to music/audiobook/etc. You can get super heavy-duty bands that even bodybuilders will struggle with - so don't think you have to go to the gym to put on significant muscle. You don't need to make a big financial investment here - your muscles will grow when working against significant resistance and they don't really care how they get it - just that they get it in sufficient volume and consistency.

* Ignore fad diets and follow only science/evidence based programs. The best I've found are "Renaissance Periodization" and Jeff Nippard. You want to follow those who are non-religious about any particular approach and willing to adjust their approach purely based on the best studies. I wasted soooo much time following crazy diets and fad workouts before I found good reliable data to work with, and that made all the difference.

* Focus on the 99% that matters for diet and exercise. The essentials are very simple. But if you're looking for info on youtube and other places, the majority of videos/articles are focusing on optimizing the 1%. So you can waste a lot of time worrying about the 1% that matters very little and miss the 99% that matters immensely. Remember that fitness experts often get bored of focusing on the basics and will want to constantly explore the exotic fringes. Ignore the exotic fringes - they will be a huge waste of your time unless you are an elite athlete competing in world-class competitions.

* Track what you eat in a calorie/macro counter app - at least until you get reliable intuition about it. I resisted this for a long time, but when I finally did it, I realized that my diet was insane. I was 900 calories one day and 4000 calories another day. My intuition about food and calories was terrible. It wasn't until I started counting calories that I realized what was what. Figuring out my maintenance calories also helped me to keep my energy levels more constant (my 900 calorie days were, non-surprisingly, the days I felt like a wet bag of sand).

* For style, I found Pinterest to be a surprisingly good resource. If you find a style you like that is contemporary and works well for your age, body-type, etc, then you can find thousands of photos that provide good examples. Save all the ones you like and then go through them and look for patterns. Pay attention to colors, fit, etc. Start replacing your current wardrobe with the most common items that work well in the pictures. Observe what is working for others that are similar to you, and start modeling your style after them. This may feel a bit "vain" - but remember, you're not doing anyone any favors by showing up in poor style - do it for others if that helps you overcome that mental hurdle.

* Be patient and gentle with yourself. Taking a note from the parent article: If you notice your dog got fat and out of shape, would you whip him and shame him, or gently encourage him and make it fun to exercise? Treat yourself at least as good as a dog you love. This will take time. The changes will be extremely subtle in the short-term, but will make a big difference long-term. Loving your inner animal will ensure it goes as fast as possible. Shaming or punishing your inner animal will only slow things down and cause you to resent the process. Be creative - make it fun - only boring people get bored.

Most people let themselves atrophy as they age - so you may be surrounded by bad examples that will depress you about aging. Focus instead on the examples of people who are active, growing, and living amazing lives well into their 80's. Then the future of aging won't seem so dark.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Every time I stop, my quality of life drops like a lead weight. I have a sort of internal battle over this, but I love watching the numbers go up. They can’t forever and they won’t, but for the time being I find slipping another 2.5-5lb onto the bar incredibly gratifying. At the same time I know the numbers mean nothing and arriving, effort, and consistency are everything. Regardless, apart from god sleep, pushing my…

Don't get hung up on the numbers. What's gratifying now also has the power to be very demotivating later. Fall back to 75% or 50% every now and then and be conscious that it's not bad at all, but still progress. I don't know where you are in your lifting career, but it pays 5x later on, when numbers don't matter anymore. You'll be amazed how quickly you can build strength back up after a break or injury or how much m…

I agree completely. I guess I'm around 15 years in and I've had enough setbacks, mental and physical, to know that just making it from the bed in the morning to the barbell at some point in the day is excellent on its own. Regardless, I get a real kick out of that feedback - seeing evidence of my strength increasing.

> You'll be amazed how quickly you can build strength back up

You're not kidding. My most recent break was my longest, and I was dreading coming back to it. I felt like a hot sack of garbage, any exercise was awful, and I was soft as it gets. But maybe 2 months after I started up again, my lifts were not all that far from where I left them. I had no idea I had it in me. I guess I took almost 3 years off from any regular lifting (had a baby and life got away from me).

These days I don't really lift for anything other than strength and general well-being, though I started with a pretty explicit focus on building muscle, haha. I stick to a fairly basic 3x3 routine rotating a handful of compound lifts, then I've got a handful of calisthenics-based exercises I've come to really enjoy. Weighted pull ups, dips, push ups, some ring exercises, etc. I keep my reps low there too, usually between 5 and 10.

I really love 3x3 these days because I find I can go hard without overdoing it. I used to do a 5x5 routine and sometimes, shit, I just don't want the extra reps at all. I don't need them. I'm there to condition my body, not beat the hell out of myself. With 3x3 I'm arguably stronger than I've ever been, less muscular, and definitely less injured. I never got hurt too much, but those nagging pains and aches aren't as much of a thing anymore even though I'm older and shittier than ever. It's definitely an individual choice, though. Some people love the higher rep, lighter weight thing. I'm a slow, lazy, poorly motivated person who's pretty please if they just manage to show up.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Don't get hung up on the numbers. What's gratifying now also has the power to be very demotivating later. Fall back to 75% or 50% every now and then and be conscious that it's not bad at all, but still progress. I don't know where you are in your lifting career, but it pays 5x later on, when numbers don't matter anymore. You'll be amazed how quickly you can build strength back up after a break or injury or how much m…

You start lifting to look better, to attract women. You keep lifting for yourself, to get these numbers up. Finally, you lift for no reason whatsoever, because you cannot imagine not doing it. Every one of these steps is great.

Absolutely! That's my story right there. In my mind this is sort of the process of acquiring any kind of wisdom. We inadvertently discover so many good things, and eventually stick with it because it becomes a sort of intrinsic knowledge that it needs to be done in order to live a good life.

I don't think lifting weights would popularly fall into the category of being a wise thing to do, but I'm sticking to it. Conditioning your body is key to living your best life, and being healthy enough to help those around you live theirs.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Robin Hobb is one of my favorite authors. Her masterwork is a series of series (four trilogies and a quadrology) known as The Realm of the Elderlings. She published the first trilogy, which begins with Assassin's Apprentice, starting in 1995. I saw the books when they first came out and I assumed from the title and the cover that it would be a cheesy fantasy by the numbers, so I never bought it. But I kept hearing ab…

I entirely agree with your message and can only support the recommendation about those great books I've read countless times.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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I wonder what you really mean by this. Do you wish to have had sex with a greater number of women? Or do you wish you just had more sex with your partner/s? If it's the former, I believe this is something all men want deep down. Religion has done well to squash this desire and many deny they have it at all, but they do. But it's like chasing the dragon. I don't think you can ever really satisfy this urge. If it's the…

> But it's like chasing the dragon. I don't think you can ever really satisfy this urge. I theorize that people who believe this haven't really tried. In my experience it's easier than it seems; definitely not an insurmountable task.

A lot of older men like to be seen with young, pretty women for the status of it. That part of it, the status seeking, can never be satiated.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Yes! Weightlifting is probably the number one best thing you can do for your body.

Every time I stop, my quality of life drops like a lead weight. I have a sort of internal battle over this, but I love watching the numbers go up. They can’t forever and they won’t, but for the time being I find slipping another 2.5-5lb onto the bar incredibly gratifying. At the same time I know the numbers mean nothing and arriving, effort, and consistency are everything. Regardless, apart from god sleep, pushing my…

Same for me. I started lifting again a month or so ago and started just feeling better mentally. Then I just lost the motivation for a bit and have stopped for a few weeks. It's hard to put my finger on it but I just don't feel as good without lifting

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I stop, my quality of life drops like a lead weight. I have a sort of internal battle over this, but I love watching the numbers go up. They can’t forever and they won’t, but for the time being I find slipping another 2.5-5lb onto the bar incredibly gratifying. At the same time I know the numbers mean nothing and arriving, effort, and consistency are everything. Regardless, apart from god sleep, pushing my…

Don't get hung up on the numbers. What's gratifying now also has the power to be very demotivating later. Fall back to 75% or 50% every now and then and be conscious that it's not bad at all, but still progress. I don't know where you are in your lifting career, but it pays 5x later on, when numbers don't matter anymore. You'll be amazed how quickly you can build strength back up after a break or injury or how much m…

I used to have this mindset that the only thing that matters are the numbers going up. This was probably due to Mr getting all gung ho about starting strength when i first started lifting. I think this has actually served to prevent me from getting motivated to lift nowadays. I still get this feeling in the back of my kind saying "what's the point if you're lifting only half of what you used to?" . I've slowly tried to transition to the mindset that lifting at all on a particular day is a success.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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His first book Elantris is also very good and well worth your time. A good starting point for his work and a self-contained novel (although he had mentioned writing two more Elantris books in the distant future).

FYI - Robin Hobb is a lady.

Since GP is talking about Elantris it's safe to say the "he" in this case is Brandon Sanderson and not Robin Hobb.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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The animal separation part is confusing to me. Not because of any "mind versus matter" dilemmas but because of desires. The author says that the animal wants to relax and lie down. But where is the distinction here? If you drink coffee when you feel the urge - that's on you, but if you relax when you feel like it - then it's the animal? Can it be that all those desires for working hard and having coffee and alcohol w…

It's right there towards the end: She wishes she had treated her body as well as she would have treated any other animal.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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post #201

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Don't get hung up on the numbers. What's gratifying now also has the power to be very demotivating later. Fall back to 75% or 50% every now and then and be conscious that it's not bad at all, but still progress. I don't know where you are in your lifting career, but it pays 5x later on, when numbers don't matter anymore. You'll be amazed how quickly you can build strength back up after a break or injury or how much m…

You start lifting to look better, to attract women. You keep lifting for yourself, to get these numbers up. Finally, you lift for no reason whatsoever, because you cannot imagine not doing it. Every one of these steps is great.

It's funny because I actually deadlifted the most I've ever had the day of my first date with my now girlfriend. It acted as a good nerve calmer. "If I can lift all this weight and have come this far, surely I can handle a first date" .
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