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US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack

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Post by crazypython »

vmception wrote: post #6

I like how they are charging 10% more if you pay with Bitcoin than with Monero. I think commerce would greatly improve if other networks had Tor clients, especially because of the stablecoin and private stablecoin availability as of this year. All EVMs as well as Tendermint networks have no out of the box solutions for Tor nodes and connectivity. But they both have ways for ERC20 tokens to have a great degree of priv…

Bitcoin full node– which processes and verifies all transactions– uses only 7GB disk space. It doubles as a wallet, and it has native bidirectional Tor support.

Re: US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack

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Post by kingsuper20 »

fennecfoxen wrote: post #218
SkyMarshal wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that the one when the CIA got wind of a Soviet industrial espionage operation, and seeded it with a legit-looking but subtly flawed schematic, which the Soviets ended up actually building to spec, and it exploded shortly after? That wasn't an internet trojan, fyi.

According to the story, this was some Canadian pipeline control equipment or software which the USSR purchased from some Canadians, but the CIA modified the software somehow before it was delivered. A supply-chain attack on a computer system. I understand there's nonzero doubt as to the credibility of this story.

Interesting, it's not unlike the Crypto AG story.

It's funny how upset the US public can get about any perceived incursions by the Russians (sometimes true, often not) when you consider the country's own history.

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Post by wussboy »

christophilus wrote: post #405
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #13

That gang may have bitten off more than they can chew. They've now gotten the US government involved officially, which means that beyond the sheer mass of resources that will go into tracking this gang, the government also has something to prove now. Being at the center of an international incident is probably not good for business.

When you said “the gang”, I had an image of the gang from “It’s Always Sunny” writing their first virus and this being the result. I’d watch that episode.

When the Feds catch up to them, Dennis and Mac are loading frozen beef in to the back of his car and are legitimately confused by what the cops are saying. They moved past the virus several weeks ago and have had literally dozens of plans since then.

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #382
dmix wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't trucks transport fuel like this all the time? Or maybe it's the quantity.

They do, but to me GP's issue is with relaxing the requirements for rest. IE, the issue isn't that drivers transport fuel, but that possibly tired drivers do so.

Everyone here is failing to read between the lines.

Nobody in trucking gripes about limited working hours. The current hours per week available for work are more than enough to work at an unsustainable rate of sleep. What everyone bitches about is the electronic logging requirements that prevent them from cooking the books in order to account for delays that happen over the normal course of business. Because people can no longer cook the books they do other things that increase risk.

For political and optical reasons the DOT can't exempt them from e-logs to make their lives easier. So they just exempt them from all of it. They're basically saying "if you're gonna push yourselves we'd rather you cut the smart corner and work a 12hr day than drive around like maniacs trying to fit X hours of driving in a Y hour window."

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Post by rchaud »

christophilus wrote: post #405
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #13

That gang may have bitten off more than they can chew. They've now gotten the US government involved officially, which means that beyond the sheer mass of resources that will go into tracking this gang, the government also has something to prove now. Being at the center of an international incident is probably not good for business.

When you said “the gang”, I had an image of the gang from “It’s Always Sunny” writing their first virus and this being the result. I’d watch that episode.

The Gang "Solves" the Gas Crisis (2021)

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Post by titzer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #358
titzer wrote: post #351

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All internal communications, unless they are with an attorney and are clearly marked "privileged" and pertain to actual legal advice, are discoverable.

> All internal communications, unless they are with an attorney and are clearly marked "privileged" and pertain to actual legal advice, are discoverable If a communication doesn't exist, it's not discoverable. If you legislate penalties for a certain type of communication, it shouldn't be surprising when it ceases to exist. This isn't the product of cover ups. It's the long-term effect of penalties dissuading the loo…

You're imagining that every company is going to transition some kind of nefarious mob-style wink-wink, nudge-nudge, no-written records speakeasy, or what? That's really taking things far.

This whole line of reasoning is specious, anyway. It's based on a fallacy that enforcing penalties is just going to make everyone lie their asses off to get out scott free. Is society so broken that they can get away with this? Come on.

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Post by vkou »

pc86 wrote: post #411
vkou wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because the Russian state has nothing better to do then inconvenience the operation of a foreign fuel pipeline for a few days.

Believe it or not, massive governments that employ hundreds of thousands of people are capable of doing multiple things simultaneously. I don't think there's any evidence this was state-sponsored, or even state-approved, but "oh there's better things to do" is not a good argument in the least.

I'll keep it in mind the next time a horse bolts from a barn in some foreign country - 'Clearly, this was the CIA's doing. There's no evidence for it, but they have the capability, and their motives are sufficiently sinister and shadowy, and while there's no reason for them to be engaging in medium-scale hooliganism on the other side of the world, they could be the ones responsible!'

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Post by vkou »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #404
vkou wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because the Russian state has nothing better to do then inconvenience the operation of a foreign fuel pipeline for a few days.

Russia and China have been suspected of doing things like this for years. And who says it's just to inconvenience them? There will other things happening because of this and this could impact other nations in a postive manner.

> Russia and China have been suspected of doing things like this for years.

By who? People who never provide evidence for their claims?

> There will other things happening because of this and this could impact other nations in a postive manner.

While it's certainly possible that the FSB is playing 59-dimensional chess, here, hoping for a true butterfly-effect sequence of causality, I think the onus is on you to demonstrate that.

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