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Post by spamalot159 »

climb_stealth wrote: post #217
spamalot159 wrote: post #215

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Brandon Sanderson is my go to recommendation for fantasy nowadays. Mistborn is a great place to start but The Way of Kings is the real meat and potatoes. He also links all these books together in the same universe and it's fun to notice the connections.

I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

I'd say it's worth it to start now. Sanderson is writing at a blistering pace right now and doesn't seem to be slowing down.

Mistborn and Way of Kings are in the same universe but separate worlds. I don't want to spoil too much but there is some crossover involved.

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Post by bhntr3 »

climb_stealth wrote: post #217
spamalot159 wrote: post #215

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Brandon Sanderson is my go to recommendation for fantasy nowadays. Mistborn is a great place to start but The Way of Kings is the real meat and potatoes. He also links all these books together in the same universe and it's fun to notice the connections.

I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

>Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished?

Mistborn is a complete trilogy although he continues to publish other novels set in the same world.

Way of Kings is ongoing. It's on book four now. Each book is over a thousand pages so there's a lot there. I don't think it's a problem to start. Books 1-3 are great and stand alone pretty well. It's started to drag with book 4 in my opinion. Like so many other huge epic fantasies, it has too many characters, too many plotlines, too huge of a world, and it's difficult to maintain the epic feel with all that sprawl. I'm worried for book 5.

> Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

They take place in the same universe (literally) but they are on different worlds. So they don't have anything (much?) to do with each other (yet?)

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Post by zargon »

climb_stealth wrote: post #217
spamalot159 wrote: post #215

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Brandon Sanderson is my go to recommendation for fantasy nowadays. Mistborn is a great place to start but The Way of Kings is the real meat and potatoes. He also links all these books together in the same universe and it's fun to notice the connections.

I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

Same universe -- the Cosmere. But we really are talking about "universe" here. Different planets (galaxies?) that know nothing about each other, just happen to share some laws of nature (and some mysterious characters that seem to travel around). I don't even pick up on most of the connections without having them pointed out to me.

Stormlight Archive is 10 books in two 5 book arcs. 4th book is out now, 5th book will be out in 3 years. So probably a decent time to get into Stormlight. (Sanderson makes a schedule for each of his projects and has an incredible talent for hitting his targets.)

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Post by climb_stealth »

spamalot159 wrote: post #221
climb_stealth wrote: post #217

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I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

I'd say it's worth it to start now. Sanderson is writing at a blistering pace right now and doesn't seem to be slowing down. Mistborn and Way of Kings are in the same universe but separate worlds. I don't want to spoil too much but there is some crossover involved.

Makes sense, thanks! I appreciate the non-spoiler. These days I don't even read the description on the back of books anymore to try and experience it openly. It just makes it a bit hard to work out where to start sometimes.

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Post by gpderetta »

gwd wrote: post #198
Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #163

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100% agreed. Robin Hobb (Margaret Astrid Lindholm Ogden) was without a doubt my favourite author as a teenager. Sadly, in the last 10 years, I've barely read anything. However, when The Fitz and the Fool Trilogy came out, you can bet I made time to read it!

> Sadly, in the last 10 years, I've barely read anything. Try audiobooks. It's difficult for me at the moment to set aside time to curl up with a sheaf of paper bound together; but I continue to get my dose of long-form words when working out, washing dishes, mowing the lawn (and, before the pandemic, cycling to the office).

I look forward to my 45mins commute on the tube as it is the only time I have for reading. In fact I haven't ready pretty much anything at all on this year long lockdown and just restarted now as I went back to the office.

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Post by humps »

climb_stealth wrote: post #217
spamalot159 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brandon Sanderson is my go to recommendation for fantasy nowadays. Mistborn is a great place to start but The Way of Kings is the real meat and potatoes. He also links all these books together in the same universe and it's fun to notice the connections.

I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

His first book Elantris is also very good and well worth your time. A good starting point for his work and a self-contained novel (although he had mentioned writing two more Elantris books in the distant future).

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Post by [deleted] »

climb_stealth wrote: post #216
hutzlibu wrote: post #199

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"The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. Some very powerful stories in there. The first book is pretty short so it is a good way to try it out. Though I think it hooks from the very start. " I wasn't really hooked. I think it was a interesting read, but I got no motivation to read further. Might have been, because I read a note from King before, that he also did no knew yet, how the tower worked. And he just wrote fre…

Hmmm, if the beginning wasn't convincing then I somewhat doubt that the rest of the series is going to be a much better experience. And yeah, I don't think the tower mechanics really work out in the end. But it didn't bother me personally. I haven't actually read any other books by him.

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Post by rzzzt »

hyko wrote: post #169
ncmncm wrote: post #119

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Spinach famously was misreported to have iron. Somebody slipped a decimal point, and everybody after copied the mistake. Me, I don't eat spinach anymore. Never liked it to begin with. I have eaten enough of it already to last me to the end.

Spinach famously was misreported to be misreported to have iron due to the decimal point slip: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/03063127145356... Nothing indicates that the decimal point error ever was made, but the account about it will most likely live a long and colorful life, just like its parent myth

Spinach is a fictional plant, it was described by Linné as sort of a joke but then everyone just went with it.

But seriously, you described three layers of misconceptions in this comment thread, how is anyone supposed to know "the real truth" about anything food related, if spinach alone is such a hard subject?

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Post by climb_stealth »

bhntr3 wrote: post #222
climb_stealth wrote: post #217

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I haven't heard of these, thanks for the recommendation! According to Wikipedia he hasn't finished writing them yet. Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? It's not clear from a quick glance, Mistborn and The Way of Kings take place in the same universe?

>Is it worth reading them already or does it feel unfinished? Mistborn is a complete trilogy although he continues to publish other novels set in the same world. Way of Kings is ongoing. It's on book four now. Each book is over a thousand pages so there's a lot there. I don't think it's a problem to start. Books 1-3 are great and stand alone pretty well. It's started to drag with book 4 in my opinion. Like so many ot…

Thanks for the details! Mistborn is going on my list to read next.

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Post by gpderetta »

vessenes wrote: post #193
bitexploder wrote: post #154

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I’m not convinced anyone has ever read of of the Malazan series. Sure, it’s theoretically possible, but has anyone really read /every/ word? Jokes aside, I love epic fantasy, but that series was just a little too epic for me. Wheel of Time has a nice balance, you really get to meet the main characters, it just takes a while.

I read it all. I would say it needed a series re-edit. First book or two are really differently paced from the end; those two should probably get bulked up a bit, and pulled fully into the final story lore. Then the series needs a trim down, probably like 33% of pages. It's possible some of the story arcs need to be moved around as well for better readability. I have just specified like a decade of hard labor, I know…

I was put off by the bad writing. Good writing is really wasted on me, I mostly care for it to be sufficient enough not to get in the way of enjoying the story. In my opinion Malazan does not reach even that level, which is too bad as I enjoyed the word building and the most of the characters. For the most part it reads like a DM recounting their D&D campaign (which I understand it is exactly what it is), but what might work (or just be overlooked) on an interactive RPG session doesn't necessarily work on a book.

The first book was very bad, the second book was actually much better and I enjoyed it (I assume the editing was much more extensive), but the third book was again barely readable and put me off the series.

I might start it again at sometime in the future, because it is definitely something I would otherwise enjoy. I think I read somewhere that the third book might actually have been written before the second, which gives me hope.

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