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Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

polishdude20 wrote: post #179
blfr wrote: post #166

Better food, more exercise, more relaxation... but I also wonder if it would have made any difference. Yes. I'm only half OP's age but working out and eating well (well for me means much more) has made all the little aches I started to have in my 20s go away and made me much calmer, I can also sleep pretty much anywhere and at any time. More interestingly though, Me, and the animal I live inside. there is no animal y…

Yes! Weightlifting is probably the number one best thing you can do for your body.

Every time I stop, my quality of life drops like a lead weight.

I have a sort of internal battle over this, but I love watching the numbers go up. They can’t forever and they won’t, but for the time being I find slipping another 2.5-5lb onto the bar incredibly gratifying.

At the same time I know the numbers mean nothing and arriving, effort, and consistency are everything.

Regardless, apart from god sleep, pushing myself with barbell training is the single thing I can point to that dramatically improves my mental and physical health.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by theonething »

maxqin1 wrote: post #124
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #81

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Nuts, seeds, low-carb vegetables, fiber supplement, occasional fruits especially berries (exception is a avocado every day). No red meat. Fish or chicken or turkey 2-3 times per week. Occasional eggs. Fish should be wild caught and either salmon or small like sardines, herring, mackerel , etc. Probiotic and prebiotic foods. Limited dairy and only non-cow daily unless it’s A2. Coffee and green teA but no caffeine afte…

Spot on, thanks.

Then why didn't you just say so.

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Post by kmonsen »

maxqin1 wrote: post #25
rubicon33 wrote: post #2

70? My animal is only 33 and is very tired. Writing this as it lays in bed, 3 in the afternoon, because even a standard chair sounds more exhausting to it. It seems to have no motivation or energy to do much besides lay here. If I force it, it will get stuff done but at a huge cost. It will yearn the entire time to just lay back down. It's interest in things seems to be fading quickly. What desire it used to have to…

> good food Everyone thinks they eat good food. Food is the number one physical measurable input into our bodies. So it boggles my mind that nutrition isn't the most studied subject, alongside maybe the study of living a fulfilling life. Changing my eating habits has changed my life for the better. It took kidney stones (not recommended) to get me here. But even my most obese and unhealthy friends like to proudly tel…

I tried the whole30 diet for fun, and it changed my body quite a bit. I used to snore, but it completely went away when I stopped eating processed food. When I started again the snoring came back.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by Yenrabbit »

Swizec wrote: post #90
Aeolun wrote: post #86

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Isn't this just caused by you leaving your 20's behind? At least for me I feel like I passed by my best years, and am only realizing it now. By 60 I certainly hope to have accepted that, but right now it's still a bit hard.

I suspect the confounding variable is that late 20’s/early 30’s is when most people have kids. Happiness levels improve in late 50’s when kids are out of the house. Kids may be “a complete joy and the best thing you’ve ever done”, but they’re also a huge financial burden, source of stress, and limiter on doing what you wanna do.

Looked into this, since a lot of people would say this is crazy. But it turns out kids do seem to have a negative correlation with parental well-being. I found http://www.nber.org/papers/w25597 which takes a closer look at some of the possible reasons.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by newnormal »

rubicon33 wrote: post #118
DougN7 wrote: post #29

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This actually sounds quite a bit like depression. Some inexpensive meds can make a huge difference. I know from experience.

I have tried prozac. Unfortunately, it made my tiredness even worse almost immediately. Doctor said this would go away after I increased dosage, but I couldn't stick with it long enough to see this benefit. I've considered trying again but, it's a hard pill to swallow when the solution takes weeks to work, and in the meantime, you're suffering even more. If I had to be honest, I question whether I am scientifically "…

That sounds exactly what I was going through for the past 15+ years. I had many strong interests, but everything seemed like more work than it was worth doing. Depression and anxiety accompanied the low motivation. I chalked it up to being in a bad mood, and tried lots of mental health related things to fix that, with little progress over years of consistent effort.

Within the past two or three years, some health concerns started showing up - daily headaches, a near-constant lightheaded feeling, nausea, trouble focusing my eyes, stuff like that. Eventually, the near-constant nausea forced me to try some dietary changes.

It turned out that gluten was the cause of all those more concerning health issues. But to my surprise, it was also the cause of the attention and motivation issues that had plagued me for most of my life. After 3 or so days off of gluten, my mind suddenly felt so much more clear, and since then, I've been much more able to pursue my interests. I didn't get diagnosed, but the closest disorders I could find are gluten-induced brain fog (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7454984/) and the beginnings of gluten ataxia (https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/74/9/1221).

I'm not saying that you have the same thing, but it could definitely be a medical condition if you don't respond well to therapy or antidepressants. I wouldn't overlook the physical side of things.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by thaumasiotes »

tomlagier wrote: post #145
elyobo wrote: post #83

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I read the Assassin's Apprentice series through, but it didn't really satisfy, and I haven't read anything else by the author. I like the Malazan ones, and ASoIF, a lot more - partly the grimdark, but more so the overall complexity of the plot. While Hobb's work was pleasant it just didn't really engage me.

I really liked the first book and parts of the 2nd and 3rd, but man the 3rd book really threw me off the series. Just a really unsatisfying way to land a trilogy - all of the stress and torment that Fitz had gone through for a couple of thousand pages across the 3 books is given just a few pages at the end, not even in-character, to pay off. Wonderful prose but man the storytelling was a disappointment. Put me off he…

> Wonderful prose but man the storytelling was a disappointment.

If you're looking for quality prose with a confusing, hard-to-perceive story in the background, I can recommend Patricia A. McKillip. Most famously, I think, the Riddle-Master books, but most of her fantasy stuff is like this.

It's not so much that the storytelling is disappointing as that it's hard to understand what's supposed to be going on. But the writing style is something else.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by hedberg10 »

koonsolo wrote: post #176
rubicon33 wrote: post #2

70? My animal is only 33 and is very tired. Writing this as it lays in bed, 3 in the afternoon, because even a standard chair sounds more exhausting to it. It seems to have no motivation or energy to do much besides lay here. If I force it, it will get stuff done but at a huge cost. It will yearn the entire time to just lay back down. It's interest in things seems to be fading quickly. What desire it used to have to…

Take a 1 hour walk outside every day. Your 'wasted' hour will be given back tenfold.

*when the sun is the highest in the sky. Shirt off, if you dare. Start slow (don't be stupid and burn yourself).

The energy is incredible. I walked about 20 miles this morning with the sun coming up before biking 6 miles to work and then back in the evening. And I know I'll have lots of energy to spare tonight.

Yes we are warm blooded animals but still very dependent on the sun and activity.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by hedberg10 »

nradov wrote: post #11
rubicon33 wrote: post #2

70? My animal is only 33 and is very tired. Writing this as it lays in bed, 3 in the afternoon, because even a standard chair sounds more exhausting to it. It seems to have no motivation or energy to do much besides lay here. If I force it, it will get stuff done but at a huge cost. It will yearn the entire time to just lay back down. It's interest in things seems to be fading quickly. What desire it used to have to…

If you keep forcing it every day then eventually it gets easier. Listen to the audio book "Can't Hurt Me" by David Goggins. It will change your perspective on what your animal can take. https://davidgoggins.com/book/

Is the article not the exact opposite?

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

climb_stealth wrote: post #61
autarch wrote: post #33

Robin Hobb is one of my favorite authors. Her masterwork is a series of series (four trilogies and a quadrology) known as The Realm of the Elderlings. She published the first trilogy, which begins with Assassin's Apprentice, starting in 1995. I saw the books when they first came out and I assumed from the title and the cover that it would be a cheesy fantasy by the numbers, so I never bought it. But I kept hearing ab…

Aw man, I just started a comment saying how this sounds really promising and was going to ask about it. Turns out I have actually read them. I might have to read them all again. I would recommend them as well. I'm a big fan of the Malazan series as well. I still think of the hair jacket when I come across someone with a smelly jacket and it never fails to crack me up. My recommendation for epic fantasy that is a bit…

In The Dark Tower, only first two books are good. Third is decent, the rest I've read only because I'm a very stubborn person.
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