I've wondered what the effect our modern digital economy has had on consumer price inflation. Normally, an increase in money supply would cause consumer goods to increase in price, since more people are able to buy them and there is a limit on how much of any particular physical good is available. This isn't the case, however, for digital goods. If there are suddenly 100 million new people who want to buy a Netflix s…
>Normally, an increase in money supply would cause consumer goods to increase in price, since more people are able to buy them and there is a limit on how much of any particular physical good is available. Computers and other electronics are cheaper than ever on a real and absolute basis despite increased demand and increased money supply
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Housing prices are not driven by scarcity, they are driven by financialization of our economy. There are multiple cities in England where population has decreased but house prices increased. During lockdown 700k people left London, but house prices kept going up.
Triple the housing supply. Prices will go down.
Housing costs are driven by what people will pay, which is driven by salary, there’s always an option to not pay for housing in london - housing in Stoke is cheap, and not much further commute from Bloomsbury than say surbiton. Places like Luton are cheap and are a very respectable commuting distance, but people will pay far more for a house in Hackney
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Normally, an increase in money supply would cause consumer goods to increase in price, since more people are able to buy them Not if the increase in money supply goes from the banks to the already wealthy (as cheap loans), which don't use the extra money to consume, but to invest, buy land, and fund small-competition-crushing rent-seeking endeavours. Then the money supply increases, consumer goods remain more or le…
We saw what happened in 2008 when the loans went to unsophisticated, underqualified borrowers.
In that case the lenders were the ones who were the problem, and the borrowers were indeed using the money as disposable income (well, at least, to buy a home and other consumer goods on credit).
Whereas today the money goes from the printers to the rich people - not the common folk.
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Post scarcity only for certain things. Things like living space are becoming scarcer and more expensive.
Living space in rural areas is cheap. Living space near good jobs is what's scarce.
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It's also debatable that there are no costs associated with digital goods. If suddenly Netflix had a surge in subscribers and they doubled them over a short period of time, they'd have to invest in infrastructure to support the extra demand. That would cost them in hardware and human resoursces to handle the extra demand. But yeah, digital services have a better situation at meeting demand than physical goods of whic…
But the surge in revenue from doubling subscribers would (way) more than cover any costs in infrastructure spending. This would not drive any increase in subscription cost, which is purely governed by the competition and content acquisition costs, paired with whatever magic number the major investors/board decides is an acceptable profit margin.
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It describes a very sharp increase in created money. The poster of the linked tweet is implying this is unique and we will see negative economic effects (like inflation) because of it. Parent to that tweet is arguing we have not seen those effects despite past federal reserve action and so there is no worry. The wider context to this conversation is that some people [who?] believe federal reserve policy is flawed and…
It's not created money. We didn't just print this money. The money is printed on collateral, that is private industry traded assets for US dollars. This graph also completely ignores that the US dollar is the de facto reserve currency of the world, so dividing dollars by US population is fairly meaningless in 2021.
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This is true but it is imperative that citizens have a reliable currency to use to do transactions. This is why I think it is imperative that we transition over to cryptocurrencies that are based on strong fundamentals that make money reliable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money
Every economy in the world has and will continue to operate with some inflation, taking away an inflationary currency is dangerous and will serve to further entrench the wealth inequality we have seen grow over the past century. Sure crypto is nice because you don't have to trust a central government, but you already are trusting that government with the other 99% parts of life, rendering this sort of moot. In additi…
Endless bailouts paid for by population can't possibly be a sound long-term solution. Maybe it's better to just let it collapse.
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
But the surge in revenue from doubling subscribers would (way) more than cover any costs in infrastructure spending. This would not drive any increase in subscription cost, which is purely governed by the competition and content acquisition costs, paired with whatever magic number the major investors/board decides is an acceptable profit margin.
A doubling in subscribers might need a trippling in customer service agents (especially if the new customers are not as good at tech and need more help, which goes along with being a late adopter or if the service quality drops because of the presumed doubled usage, and there's more service requests as a result). If the doubled subscribers requires doubling the number of Netflix OpenConnect CDN boxes, that would mean…
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#229It seems to me like a failure to accept that adjacent markets sharing a currency can have different rates of inflation is a large part of why people are so damned bad at understanding and measuring inflation. The article is a good example, every metric and estimate proposed assumes that there is a single inflation rate for the currency. But if you instead thought of it as one good being trades in multiple different market places, then its obvious that there could be differences in price between these markets which traders could exploit. Critically, unless they did so and doing so was a near perfect market, there would effectively be multiple different prices for the commodity and the textbook use of inflation would be such a shitty model as to be near useless. If you instead asked, how many ingots of currencium would I need to buy a bag of other goods, it would be obvious that this would also require a statement of in market A. I doubt the reason this arbitrage opportunity is entirely missed, but it could be that its unusually hard to exploit. However, I suspect it is partly because even among financially literate people, a currency has one rate of inflation is a common idea.
That said, the single market model where currency has a common price provides shitty predictions. For instance, the strongest counter argument against the apparently obvious statement. SNP500 has not increased more in value in 2020 than 2019, its mostly just inflation, is: No metric of inflation say it has been anywhere near 40% in 2020.
However, if we view this as two different markets, A(capital), B(consumer) where the inflation is different for each. Then any metric which is designed to predict inflation assuming its the same in both would by necessity underestimate one and overestimate the other.
The counterargument would be that if this was the case an efficient market would eliminate the arbitrate opportunity. But thats barely true in the most ideal cases, and its easy enough to come up with such arbitrate opportunities.
For instance, we know that historically, whenever there is inflation, stocks respond quickly, but salaries generally lag behind. This is damned near proof of the multi market model on its own, but a model with more parameters always fits the data better. A sufficient, but not necessary proof would be the existence of insurance contracts for and against inflation in another market priced in the same currency. In short, is there a reason that salary futures aren't a thing?
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These morons are trying to pump a certain crypto-token by instilling inflation fears, but since inflation has been a non-issue in the US since the 1970s, they are now trying to shift the focus to the money supply as if it had any relevance at all.
Do you truly believe that printing unprecedented amounts of money will have zero effect on the real value of that money?