Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who was it again that has the most effective intelligence community and military in the world?
Intelligence I'd say probably Russia right? They've made America look quite incompetent the past decade or so. Military I'd say America although I don't think SEAL team 6 is going to be hunting down these attackers
US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack
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Re: US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack
#62That gang may have bitten off more than they can chew. They've now gotten the US government involved officially, which means that beyond the sheer mass of resources that will go into tracking this gang, the government also has something to prove now. Being at the center of an international incident is probably not good for business.
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#63I seriously don't understand why the pipeline operators don't have some contingency plan or have simulated scenarios like this which enables them to roll-back systems immediately to some usable state. How the hell is some random ransomware gang able to shut down critical infrastructure at purely a software level
IT/Security/Software is all secondary for a pipeline operator, who's main business is to move liquids from A to B over a set of fixed pipes put in place decades ago. Without some forcing function to have cybersecurity threats taken seriously, industrials are unlikely to suddenly develop tier-1 security protocols.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who was it again that has the most effective intelligence community and military in the world?
Intelligence I'd say probably Russia right? They've made America look quite incompetent the past decade or so. Military I'd say America although I don't think SEAL team 6 is going to be hunting down these attackers
It would certainly reduce their enthusiasm for hacking.
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#65It needs to be asked again, why are critical services on the Internet ? We all know why, companies are chasing profits at any cost, so hiring more people to monitor these systems as the did 40 years ago will lower the execs bonuses. The US Gov should make it clear, if you are a critical service and if your service drops due to items being on the internet, for each occurances 10% of your total revenue (including your…
What does that mean?
This was addressed in the article. Critical services are on the internet because remote workers need access to them. I don't see how profits factor into it.
Re: US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack
#66It needs to be asked again, why are critical services on the Internet ? We all know why, companies are chasing profits at any cost, so hiring more people to monitor these systems as the did 40 years ago will lower the execs bonuses. The US Gov should make it clear, if you are a critical service and if your service drops due to items being on the internet, for each occurances 10% of your total revenue (including your…
Our over financialization is squeezing everyone and everything.
Re: US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack
#67They're based in Russia with tacit if not explicit government support. We should shut down Russian infrastructure as retaliation.
No we should not. We should hunt down those individuals that are responsible but if we get into this tit for tat escalation pattern it might end poorly for all parties involved.
I find as world events unfold these last few years I have drifted away from my isolationist/non-interventionist views. I wouldn’t say I’d advocate for a military response (either electronic or physically destructive) at this point, but I wouldn’t think badly of our government if they did something like that.
Americans have become a rather stupidly optimistic/ignorant people. Russia and China will absolutely destroy us if we don’t aggressively counter their military aggression. And that’s what attacks like this are: military aggression. We ought to start acting like it.
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#68Colonial Pipeline precisely does keep it's control network disconnected from the internet - the only thing that was ransomwared is their corporate network. They shut the pipelines down voluntarily to prevent further spread.
Please explain why shutting down the pipeline will contain the hack?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Intelligence I'd say probably Russia right? They've made America look quite incompetent the past decade or so. Military I'd say America although I don't think SEAL team 6 is going to be hunting down these attackers
Russia is fair game now. Pipeline for a pipeline. We should take one of theirs offline as retaliation.
Re: US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack
#70Colonial Pipeline precisely does keep it's control network disconnected from the internet - the only thing that was ransomwared is their corporate network. They shut the pipelines down voluntarily to prevent further spread.