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The Animal Is Tired

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Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by xivzgrev »

DougN7 wrote: post #29
rubicon33 wrote: post #2

70? My animal is only 33 and is very tired. Writing this as it lays in bed, 3 in the afternoon, because even a standard chair sounds more exhausting to it. It seems to have no motivation or energy to do much besides lay here. If I force it, it will get stuff done but at a huge cost. It will yearn the entire time to just lay back down. It's interest in things seems to be fading quickly. What desire it used to have to…

This actually sounds quite a bit like depression. Some inexpensive meds can make a huge difference. I know from experience.

Agree, but in my experience medicine simply kept me from going too low. Some kind of therapy may also be needed, and a focus / prioritization on things that make you happy.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by hodgesrm »

rubicon33 wrote: post #2

70? My animal is only 33 and is very tired. Writing this as it lays in bed, 3 in the afternoon, because even a standard chair sounds more exhausting to it. It seems to have no motivation or energy to do much besides lay here. If I force it, it will get stuff done but at a huge cost. It will yearn the entire time to just lay back down. It's interest in things seems to be fading quickly. What desire it used to have to…

The key is to keep moving forward. Marion Countess Dönhoff had a great line about aging in an interview when she was in her 80s: "every day a little more self-discipline."

Dönhoff was an East Prussian who became an influential journalist and later newspaper publisher in W. Germany after the war. In her family, the attitude to life was basically shut up, deal with it, and keep going. She was an aristocrat in the best sense of the word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_D%C3%B6nhoff

Edit: typo

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by nradov »

podgaj wrote: post #12

I laugh when I see people running for 6 miles are doing marathons or Iron Man’s. How can anyone think that is healthy and good for the long term functioning of the body? Study after study has shown that we are meant to be “lazy”. But no one wants to hear that. So listen to this guy, relax!

The actual studies show there is a J-shaped curve relationship between endurance sports training and long term health. Most people in affluent societies are way over on the left side of the curve and could improve long term functioning through more exercise. The risks for chronic problems like heart scarring, arterial calcification, and musculoskeletal injuries only start to increase once you get over about 20 hours per week.

Elderly people frequently die because they get weak, then they fall and end up bedridden. At that point they don't last very long.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by ptero »

podgaj wrote: post #19
randomopining wrote: post #14

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6 miles isn’t that long lol. Exercise is good. Otherwise you get weak and shrivel up.

My grandfather lived in 98 never exercised in his life. I know it’s an anecdote, but it’s still data.

My grandfather lived into his 90s and as far as I know never "exercised". But during a lot of his life he split firewood and worked 8-hour shifts at a factory (before walking home for an hour or so) and did a lot of other things that would be much more vigorous than regular exercise. A different anecdote.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by hombre_fatal »

podgaj wrote: post #12

I laugh when I see people running for 6 miles are doing marathons or Iron Man’s. How can anyone think that is healthy and good for the long term functioning of the body? Study after study has shown that we are meant to be “lazy”. But no one wants to hear that. So listen to this guy, relax!

Be wary of being desperate to justify your lifestyle. For example, let’s see some of these studies that celebrate the sedentary lifestyle impact on health.

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by mensetmanusman »

logicslave wrote: post #27
savanaly wrote: post #22

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Do those times you just feel tired for no reason happen to correlate with being after the times you ate carbs? I'm not suggesting that's definitely the issue, but people underrate simple physical explanations for stuff like this. Sometimes you have some deep seated insecurities and sometimes your body just isn't functioning but your brain isn't cognizant of it and can't realize that's the issue.

Funny you mention this, lately I have had a hunch that carbs could be something to eliminate from my diet. I havent been able to do it 100%, but I have kind of a checklist of things in my mind of ways and habits to change. Eating carbs is on there. I may give it a closer look

Mid 30s, When I started going to ~one meal a day (dinner), my sleep was better and I didn’t have the afternoon digestive tiredness.

I only have coffee for breakfast (black, dairy doesn’t feel great to me first thing), keep hydrated, if I eat a huge dinner (large salad,carbs,protein,fruit) it’s amazing how it lasts 24 hrs.

I do not go to the gym though (not sure if my eating habits would be compatible with being a gym goer, I do walk a few miles a day though).

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by maxqin1 »

docmars wrote: post #28
maxqin1 wrote: post #25

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> good food Everyone thinks they eat good food. Food is the number one physical measurable input into our bodies. So it boggles my mind that nutrition isn't the most studied subject, alongside maybe the study of living a fulfilling life. Changing my eating habits has changed my life for the better. It took kidney stones (not recommended) to get me here. But even my most obese and unhealthy friends like to proudly tel…

Out of curiosity, what did you change after you experienced kidney stones? What was easy about it? What was difficult?

#1 change: actually paying attention to what your putting inside you.

Kidney stones were a long time ago now, I've been continuously evolving since, and I've been super lucky to have a lot of help with both the cooking and research along the way.

One thing I learned specifically from that incident was that:

Raw spinach != Cooked spinach.

Specifically, the former has a specific chemical that will cause kidney stones. This is problematic for someone on the subway diet who substitutes spinach for the lettuce, because, you know, spinach is healthier than lettuce... which is kind of true, until it isn't.

Edit: what was easy? Knowing the impact that little daily decisions can have (a few day stay in the hospital). Also, cutting out the soda was easy after experiencing that level of pain (the kind where things become a blur, you accidentally rip out IVs, sister passes out just from watching, etc).

Also, I've changed my diet regularly as information changes for the past ten years. Every single time I thought I was "being the healthiest I can be." That said, I'm not suggesting a specific solution. What I'm suggesting is becoming familiar with the practice of iterating on your eating habits to maximize your life (in more ways than simply extension).

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by mensetmanusman »

maxerickson wrote: post #34
smoldesu wrote: post #26

It's a pretty harrowing thought that given my age (barely still a teen) I may not live another 50 years. Between the mass pollution tainting our world, impending global warming and increased civil unrest, I figure the odds that my animal reaches 70 are not very high.

The environment likely has many less free toxins than it did when the author of the link was a teen. We have things to be concerned about (PFAS and microplastics for instance), but there are a bunch of areas where massive progress has been made in the last 50 years.

PFAS were mass manufactured during ww2 for missile and aero- o-rings, so she survived that too.

Public health says biggest issue today is overconsumption, e.g. almost 50% obesity rates. For environmental concerns that we have control over, PM2.5 is my top (asthma, etc.)

Re: The Animal Is Tired

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Post by edoceo »

nradov wrote: post #23
walterlb wrote: post #21

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David Goggins, not Higgins. I got excited that this was from the rally driver :)

Thanks, edited. Got hit by autocorrect.

Anyone else notice autocorrect being more aggressive?

Like switching or => of and like not => now. I've noticed loads of these kinds of typos afflicting my Android typing too. Like it's like an auto-un-correct

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