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Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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Sardines are a household favorite for us. My kids love them. The secret is, don't buy cheap ones. Look for brisling or any other small fish packed in olive oil. $3-5/can is a good sweet spot, although you can pay $9 for a can of imported Portuguese sardines no problem. Speaking of Portugal, they do grilled fresh sardines. My 3 year old insisted on eating them daily when we were in Lisbon

Have you considered the risk of mercury accumulation?

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Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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Certain segments of America tend to have poor diets. Especially the young, working class which happens to overlap with the bodybuilding class which makes whey protein a logical choice. Whey protein. It is very cheap; just add mix in a multivitamin and OTC stimulants like caffeine and you have a very marketable product with a 300% markup. The YouTube body building demographic is in the same economic class so capitaliz…

Approximately nobody mixes whey protein with caffeine. Not sure what you’re talking about

Look up “protein coffee” and maybe try to lay off the snark a bit if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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>The fact that foods such as sardines - which are rich in taurine, omega 3, calcium and vitamin D - have a clear protective effect against the onset of diabetes does not mean that taking these supplements in isolation will have the same effect. The only way i can understand this statement it that Rizzolo doubts that anything in the sardines are actually affecting type 2 diabetes. So perhaps the oily taste is suppress…

You might be right but what I've read of nutrition is that taking supplements is thought to be quite different than eating a whole food. Taking Vitamin C tablets is different than eating an orange because of all the other things that are in an orange. Or what's in spinach or kale or blueberries or sardines. I think that's the point she's making.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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“Sardines will therefore have a protective element because they are rich in the aforementioned nutrients, whereas nutrients taken in isolation in the form of supplements won’t work to the same extent” : to me this reads as “we found a correlation but we are clueless about the root cause”.

Since supplements have been brought up, what's with the American's obsession over supplements? It's like people are just chomping them down like they're some sort of food stable like bread or rice (or maybe that's just what all the youtube videos want you to think). Its like every bodybuilder on youtube has their own brand of supplements now. Don't even get me started on pre-workout. "Don't feel like working out? Chu…

I’ve found exactly one supplement that had a major impact on my quality of life, and that’s magnesium. Something about magnesium supplements greatly reduced my daily anxiety, to the point that I was amazed because I’d always just imagined I was an “anxious person”.

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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So I wonder what the diabetes rate is in Portugal, then

FWIW, According to 2019 data from the International Diabetes Federation, Portugal is ranked 53rd (9.8%) out of 195 countries for prevalence of both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Kiribati ranked 1st at 22.5% of the population between the ages of 20 and 79 having either type of diabetes and Benin ranked 195th at 1%. https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.STA.DIAB.ZS/r...

UK has pretty low prevalence at 3.90% and Ireland at 3.20%? What is their secret?

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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I’m pretty certain the mammals we eat are conscious, and that doesn’t seem to bother most of us.

I've had a growing suspicion that even plants have more 'awareness' than we give them credit for. You still gotta eat, though.

They are certainly aware. At the simplest level, we know for a fact they respond to their environment. On accelerated time scales, it is also fairly obvious to see them compete with other plants and branches of themselves. We also know they communicate with other plants, warning them of the danger of insect predators, to which they respond by increasing the production of natural insecticides.

Though I can't prove it, I'm edging toward the belief they share resources with each other, including water and nutrients through the root system.

All these facts and ideas are easily undone by particularly defining "awareness" and so this is largely a terminological problem.

The discussion quickly becomes, "Define awareness." or ... more generally ... "Define consciousness," which we see with machines, insects, plants, even single celled organisms.

Here's what science does tell us repeatedly: Those things which humans as a species are convinced have no consciousness is decreasing. Most, even today, would not believe an octopus is conscious, but we now think they are. Dolphins. Birds, even fish now have scientific studies indicating they are self-aware.

So, yeah, justifying the eating of plants because they lack self-awareness isn't a valid argument in my book.

That doesn't absolve us of a mission to reduce suffering for the things we eat.

Plants can certainly suffer and it's trivial to identify.

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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What will cure/prevent type 2 diabetes is a low-carb, high-fat diet. Sardines are a low-carb, high-fat food. Eating them replaces a big load of the carbs people usually consume, and just like that they reduce the amount of insulin they have to produce, reducing their insulin resistance and so on. Omega-3 fatty acids are just a slight benefit, probably, and not so much for the diabetes. But "Just eat a can of sardines…

Yeah, eating noting but sardines pizza isn't going to end well.

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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post #104

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Since supplements have been brought up, what's with the American's obsession over supplements? It's like people are just chomping them down like they're some sort of food stable like bread or rice (or maybe that's just what all the youtube videos want you to think). Its like every bodybuilder on youtube has their own brand of supplements now. Don't even get me started on pre-workout. "Don't feel like working out? Chu…

I’ve found exactly one supplement that had a major impact on my quality of life, and that’s magnesium. Something about magnesium supplements greatly reduced my daily anxiety, to the point that I was amazed because I’d always just imagined I was an “anxious person”.

How much do you take a day an

In dosage?

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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post #91

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FWIW, According to 2019 data from the International Diabetes Federation, Portugal is ranked 53rd (9.8%) out of 195 countries for prevalence of both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Kiribati ranked 1st at 22.5% of the population between the ages of 20 and 79 having either type of diabetes and Benin ranked 195th at 1%. https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.STA.DIAB.ZS/r...

UK has pretty low prevalence at 3.90% and Ireland at 3.20%? What is their secret?

Fish and chips and the finest ales in all the land.

Re: Eating sardines regularly helps prevent type 2 diabetes

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I see it now, everyone going to their local mega grocery buying sardines packed in sunflower oil, Totally abolishing any of the positive effects of omega-3.

Though I haven't looked into it extensively, here in the US I've only seen olive oil and soybean oil on sardine ingredients labels. Might be different in other parts of the world but here soybean oil seems to be the oil of choice when cost cutting gets involved.
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