A Hybrid Approach to Work

Post by tdeck » Thu, May 06, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

solipsism wrote: post #150

tdeck wrote: post #128

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Realized I have a typo from relying too heavily on auto-correct. Sorry about that. I worked at Google for four years. I've seen many people I know basically "play it safe" by making conservative decisions in order to minimize the likelihood of hurting one's promo chances. Despite all the talk about this, nobody really knows for sure what will affect their promo. For example, people will stay on a team they hate rathe…

* There is also a general understanding * Got it. So when it was asked, "how many know they're on the chopping block if they work remotely" and it was redefined to ask "how many know their chances for promotion might be affected by working remotely?"... The answer is "almost everyone". Many people will happily choose to work remotely, even if it makes promotion harder, because that's a good trade-off for them. Exactl…

Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, May 06, 2021, 10:00 PM UTC

singron wrote: post #69

softwaredoug wrote: post #21

> They’re testing new multi-purpose offices and private workspaces, and working with teams to develop advanced video technology that creates greater equity between employees in the office and those joining virtually. It just doesn't work when half of the team can walk by each other's desk, do some impromptu planning, and the other half are spread out across the world effectively uninvolved in these conversations. Nob…

Xoogler here. Google has been doing remote-work from the office for years. The campuses are so big and have so many buildings that meetings are often held over VC anyway so people don't have to walk back and forth. I occasionally had VC meetings with people elsewhere in the same building. Meetings between campuses are also common and obviously require VC regardless of laziness. VC is automatically added to meetings,…

Post by nr2x » Fri, May 07, 2021, 12:45 AM UTC

asdff wrote: post #114

hinkley wrote: post #105

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If people in the building have private offices, and the buildings have floors, there are a lot of psychological barriers that people either didn’t notice of have forgotten about because we’ve been trying to do our best imitation of a feedlot. I’m not going to go across a building and up steps to ask someone a question unless I am out of other options. I’m not. You’re not. I’ve done too many 5 Why’s where one of the a…

There's definitely a balance. I shared an office with one other guy before the pandemic. It was great being able to go, "Hey fred, are you busy? you seen something like this before?" and instantly have the coworker fix some super specific issue they faced before related to our setup that would have taken an afternoon or more stringing together the right generic stackoverflow questions. Now I have to find time in our…

Post by jxidjhdhdhdhfhf » Fri, May 07, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

foobarian wrote: post #71

garet2 wrote: post #59

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> you harm people out of the office I have seen this implication frequently in these discussions, that remote workers will get fewer promotions, lower ratings, etc. The assumption is that this therefore makes remote work non-viable. I don't really get that. Trading off better compensation through promos and ratings is just a business decision for the potential remote worker. Personally, I would trade never getting a…

> trade never getting a promotion again for remote work Trade you say? Sounds like win-win to me! Not being made to manage/lead a bunch of other engineers sounds pretty nice

Post by Google234 » Sat, May 15, 2021, 4:52 AM UTC

qshaman wrote: post #70

Google234 wrote: post #3

That meeting room looks super uncomfortable and awkward. Why can’t they just use some simple criteria for coming back to work: if you have two vaccine shots + time for second shot you can come in to work (unless you have a medical/religious reason not to). Also, if everyone is vaccines can we do away with mask requirements?

We will be using masks until either someone breaks the ice and people just get over it or most states rollback the mask mandate. Could be months or years.