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Put in an old DVD of Dr. Strangelove:... recently in the XBox. It was just a random thought to pop it in and enjoy. (okay, was cleaning up shelf)

I eventually realized I could skip around and enjoy the parts I liked. Freely. Without that feeling of being watched.

Flashback.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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The best way of not playing this game is to, well... not play it. Why should you pay any attention to what YouTube "suggests" you should watch? I just treat YouTube as a service that hosts videos, with a mediocre search feature, and I have no interest in what it thinks I should watch. If a real human mentions a video that piques my interest, I may watch it. If I'm interested in finding a video on a particular topic,…

> Why should you pay any attention to what YouTube "suggests" you should watch? There is one advantage: some obscure music videos. There are some rare pearls with the comments section almost exclusively thanking YT algorithm for taking them there. Happened to me so many times that I have a separate browser instance and a Google account for YT and I'm very careful what I click when I use it.

This brings us right back to square one: are the benefits of the recommending algorithms worth the downside? We can make that choice.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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You can delete your YouTube history, which will make the recommendations usually disappear.

This will kind of clean up your current recommendations but it doesn't reset the recommendation algorithm like it used to. The algorithm still retains memory of your past behaviour. For example if I consistently listen to 3 unrelated songs [A B C] on youtube together, the algorithm will regularly recommend them to me (because of my unique behaviour, not because they're similar). If I reset my history and then listen…

If you turn off watch history is basically only suggests stuff based on subscriptions which is much better imo and I never need the history feature anyway.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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I'm mildly curious about the whole Jordan Peterson anti-woke movement. Mildly, as in, I'm interested in the arguments but I often don't agree with them. I once made the mistake of clicking on a Peterson YouTube video and subsequently got only obscene alt-right "Peterson KILLS stupid feminist reporter!!" type of edited content. Like at some point 80% of my suggestions was crap like that, drowning out all the lovely ne…

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Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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I don't know how common this is, but I've gotten into the habit of creating "personas"-- different users that have different habits and are interested in different things, yet all me. It's insane that I feel it helpful to take on "multiple personalities", but there it is. Part of it is that these algorithms are fairly one-track. They can mix it up a bit, but it's always too much of one thing and too little of another…

This is what Bruce Schneier calls distorting digital surveillance. His taxonomy also includes avoiding, blocking, and breaking (i.e. crime).

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/data-and-goliath-digital-surv...

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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post #111

Put in an old DVD of Dr. Strangelove:... recently in the XBox. It was just a random thought to pop it in and enjoy. (okay, was cleaning up shelf) I eventually realized I could skip around and enjoy the parts I liked. Freely. Without that feeling of being watched. Flashback.

Is your XBox online? Are you sure the DVD player doesn't report back what you're watching and how you're watching it?

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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Use a private browsing/incognito window then. Not bullet-proof, but probably good enough.

Not so easy. It seems that major companies are on the offensive against privacy.

Google search, map and translate display a pop up. Youtube search displays two (!).

Bing translator is the most dishonest - for anything else than a trivial sentence, it requires a captcha to be completed, pretending that it detected abnormal traffic (I know it's a lie, because if I don't use private mode, it doesn't do this).

The services above essentially defeat address bar (keyword-based) searches.

It's interesting (and not in a good way) times. I've changed almost all the services I use, which is something I've never considered before. I have to say that there are valid alternatives, though.

Re: Afraid to Google a thing because I don't want the algorithm to think I like it

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post #111

Put in an old DVD of Dr. Strangelove:... recently in the XBox. It was just a random thought to pop it in and enjoy. (okay, was cleaning up shelf) I eventually realized I could skip around and enjoy the parts I liked. Freely. Without that feeling of being watched. Flashback.

Is your XBox online? Are you sure the DVD player doesn't report back what you're watching and how you're watching it?

Or your smart TV.
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