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Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

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I don't understand how this is even a security concern. How does it matter whether an app accesses the camera while it is taking up the full screen vs half?

Two apps sit side by side. You see the camera dot. Which one is recording you?

Put the camera dot on the side of the app using it. Also is this really the issue? You can have an app voice recording and even quit it and it’s just fine.

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#42
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reduce the odds of a screwup by giving it to arguably the most popular app in the store? This is nothing more than apple giving themselves and their preferred partners an unfair advantage - somewhat in opposition to Tim Cooks recent statement on developer equality.

Do I have to explain that giving something to a few key apps is much easier to control and analyze than giving it to thousand of obscure apps? It also gives more to the users - the feature is available in apps most of them use. Also this will be unpopular opinion but I don’t consider Apple giving themselves features an unfair advantage. Apple obviously trusts itself more than some random dude with a Mac mini.

I’m a huge Apple fan, and am often on their side on HN (check my comments). But this whole App dev and distribution unfairness I am dead against.

I really don’t see how you can view this behaviour as anything other than an unfair advantage. By all means let them level the field by not using private apis themselves.

And more importantly, when you are asked about it publicly, don’t lie about it.

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#44
This is not a new occurrence: Uber got com.apple.private.allow-explicit-graphics-priority (yes, I really mean com.apple.private!) that let them record the device screen several years back.

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#45

This is not a new occurrence: Uber got com.apple.private.allow-explicit-graphics-priority (yes, I really mean com.apple.private!) that let them record the device screen several years back.

That that didn't generate more of a hubbub back then and seemingly didn't stay in people's memories for long is a real mystery to me (and a great boon to Apple!).

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most popular apps are less likely to abuse the feature in a malicious way and it gives a great amount of users to test the feature.

Hilariously, “most popular apps” being Zoom getting busted for lacking basic communication security out of the gate when the pandemic hit and a/v comms became important. Please, tell us more about these most popular apps.

So the pandemic hit, use of teleconferencing apps shot up, and then security issues were identified in one of the most popular apps. How does that refute the comment you’re responding to?

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#47

This is what bothers me most about Apple devices and software. They probably have the "best" devices out there in terms of user experience. I use an iPhone and iPad every day because of it. But they keep very tight control over what software can be installed and run on it in order to safeguard their views on UX and security/privacy. This means for me as a developer that it's hard to write software and tools for my ow…

If it's your own hardware and app, what's wrong with just sideloading it using a dev cert?

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#48
post #20

the worst kind i think is the special entitlement whatsapp and other popular messaging apps get for abusing voip push notifications (not related to an actual voip call, but still waking up the app).

And I’m very happy about that. Imagine the horror of some apps sending notifications to wake up an app, so they can track your ip/location/whatever. I’d say give more control to Apple.

Meh, let me as a user decide if an app should be allowed in the background or not.

The "kill everything" approach to keep battery life is just a band aid and more often than not just ruining someone's experience. I've heard sooo many stories of people using fitness trackers on ios that stops working in the middle of a run, for instance.

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#49
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two apps sit side by side. You see the camera dot. Which one is recording you?

Put the camera dot on the side of the app using it. Also is this really the issue? You can have an app voice recording and even quit it and it’s just fine.

Do you know when your boss says “just do x” and you get frustrated by him not realizing the difficulty or implications of his request? That’s us right now. Just add dot on the side of the app. There is one bar, to start with. Not two.

Re: iPad Camera Multitasking

#50
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do I have to explain that giving something to a few key apps is much easier to control and analyze than giving it to thousand of obscure apps? It also gives more to the users - the feature is available in apps most of them use. Also this will be unpopular opinion but I don’t consider Apple giving themselves features an unfair advantage. Apple obviously trusts itself more than some random dude with a Mac mini.

I’m a huge Apple fan, and am often on their side on HN (check my comments). But this whole App dev and distribution unfairness I am dead against. I really don’t see how you can view this behaviour as anything other than an unfair advantage. By all means let them level the field by not using private apis themselves. And more importantly, when you are asked about it publicly, don’t lie about it.

Companies would lie less in public if the legal process was based on common sense. It is not. Everything you say is used against you.
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