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Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by tempestn » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:48 PM UTC

reidjs wrote: post #6

Finally some good news for CA natives. It sucks not being able to afford to live where you grew up. Maybe this will ease the housing market a bit?

Reminds me of, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

https://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-yogi-berra...

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by rawtxapp » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:48 PM UTC

reidjs wrote: post #6

Finally some good news for CA natives. It sucks not being able to afford to live where you grew up. Maybe this will ease the housing market a bit?

Housing prices are going through the roof pretty much all over the country/planet. That's what happens when it becomes an investment vehicle.

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by rawtxapp » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:50 PM UTC

kstrauser wrote: post #5

I'm not sure how much I believe that. It seems likely that this census was incredibly compromised compared to past censuses, and the 0.4% decline is well within what I'd consider a plausible margin of error.

In absolute numbers, California has a population of ~39.51M, so 182k isn't significant enough.

Personally, I left for a multitude of reasons, but whoever takes these statistics and concludes that "California is dying" is delusional in my opinion, at least for the foreseable future.

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by raldi » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:50 PM UTC

reidjs wrote: post #6

Finally some good news for CA natives. It sucks not being able to afford to live where you grew up. Maybe this will ease the housing market a bit?

We’re not even building enough housing to sustain the children of the people who already live here.

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:50 PM UTC

prepend wrote: post #10

kstrauser wrote: post #5

I'm not sure how much I believe that. It seems likely that this census was incredibly compromised compared to past censuses, and the 0.4% decline is well within what I'd consider a plausible margin of error.

It seems very unlikely that this census is corrupted. It’s also a census so the margin of error is not within a plausible margin of error.

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Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by Black101 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:51 PM UTC

kstrauser wrote: post #5

I'm not sure how much I believe that. It seems likely that this census was incredibly compromised compared to past censuses, and the 0.4% decline is well within what I'd consider a plausible margin of error.

Are you talking about illegal immigration?

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by Black101 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:51 PM UTC

gremlinsinc wrote: post #2

Well...when fire's everywhere, I'd get out of dodge too... (I write this from Utah which also catches fire frequently...but what do I know, lol).

so you left Utah?

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by raldi » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:52 PM UTC

Paradise on Earth and home to the world’s brightest-future industry; California could easily grow to 100M residents if it simply allowed housing to be built to accommodate all the people who want to live here. And it would be a net win for the climate, because most of them would be coming from much less eco-friendly places.

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by wavefunction » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:52 PM UTC

prepend wrote: post #10

kstrauser wrote: post #5

I'm not sure how much I believe that. It seems likely that this census was incredibly compromised compared to past censuses, and the 0.4% decline is well within what I'd consider a plausible margin of error.

It seems very unlikely that this census is corrupted. It’s also a census so the margin of error is not within a plausible margin of error.

The process was highly politicized and one party and the one in power while the census was administered stood to gain from sowing doubt, fear and confusion. I think the actual results gathering was handled normally but the idea of course was to depress census response rates.

Re: California population declines for first time in more than a century

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Post by Black101 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 11:54 PM UTC

rawtxapp wrote: post #12

reidjs wrote: post #6

Finally some good news for CA natives. It sucks not being able to afford to live where you grew up. Maybe this will ease the housing market a bit?

Housing prices are going through the roof pretty much all over the country/planet. That's what happens when it becomes an investment vehicle.

I thought that it was a good idea to sell my house and rent for a few years when it tripled in value.... we'll see in 1.5 years if that was a good choice.