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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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veeti wrote: post #25
cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

> Oops... you need a Google Profile to use this feature. Google Profiles is not available for your organisation. Come on, Google!

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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by joebadmo »

tonfa wrote: post #276
joebadmo wrote: post #235

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Yes, that is another great illustration of how complex and unclear this system of individual lists is. Now imagine the same scenario under the Places metaphor. You go to the "Work Friends" place and share an item. Jill, who is also in that place has access to the exact same list of people that are in the place and so knows exactly who she is talking to when she comments on that shared item. No confusion.

Google+ works in the way you describe (when you comment you know who can view the post).

Well, that's encouraging, but I think part of the problem is that I didn't know that. And I think part of why I didn't know that is because "Circles" isn't actually a metaphor that helps me understand how it works.

Places, OTOH, is, and I think the metaphor is flexible enough to add other interesting functionality, too.

Edit: Also, can you elaborate on how that works? Is there a list of names attached to each shared item?

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by joshma »

veeti wrote: post #25
cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

> Oops... you need a Google Profile to use this feature. Google Profiles is not available for your organisation. Come on, Google!

According to Chris Chabot (Developer Advocate at Google), "We're only just starting down the road of the Google+ project, but we love our Google Apps users so please stay tuned"

[from comments on http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/28/google-plus/]

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by saucerful »

IgorPartola wrote: post #245
jm4 wrote: post #149

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Still, it bothers me when it says "logged in" in the google bar at the top because google watches my searches. When I am on facebook I behave like I am in public. I don't hope for the best and write secret stuff anywhere. But with all the google searches I make through a day, I am giving google a lot of very personal information that I would not like anyone to see. I would hate to see something that I was searching f…

The solution is simple: move away from using Google for searches. There are alternatives like Bing, Yahoo and Duck Duck Go.

Or if you like Google's service, as I do, but care about your privacy, as I do, you can use Scroogle: http://www.scroogle.org/

It's a secure (SSL), anonymous (no cookies), ad-free Google interface. You can make it the default in your search bar in any browser either by hand or through an extension. Note that the results are much more minimal (no links to similar articles, cached versions, etc.), which you may prefer, as I do, or not.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by sanderjd »

RobAtticus wrote: post #192
frisco wrote: post #28

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I bet those inside Google+ at this early stage can invite others in as well.

Currently those inside + at the moment cannot invite others. It will probably change soon, but I think the initial rollouts are still going on, so for the time being I cannot invite others.

Out of curiosity, do you know or have a hypothesis for why you were invited? It seems like there are a decent number of people here who have been invited, but many who have not, with a similar trend for #googleplus on twitter, and I've yet to discern a sensible pattern.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by eneveu »

underwater wrote: post #244
simonw wrote: post #178

""" Oops... you need a Google profile to use this feature. Google Profiles is not available for your organization. """ Grr. Google /really/ need to fix their authentication scheme.

It's frustrating that they don't let you switch for different services. I have my own domain under Google Apps I use for "work stuff" as well as a Gmail account I use for stuff I don't care about. If I visit YouTube after using my work account I get that crappy error page. There is no reason my YouTube session should be tied to what email account I'm looking at. I don't see why at the very least it can't say: "Hey, y…

There may be some glitches, but I'm actually grateful for the ability to log into multiple accounts at the same time. I still remember, one year ago, the headaches of logging out / logging in all the time (or using an Incognito tab)...

Google only added multiple sign-in last year ( http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/08/google-multiple-sig... ), and, when you use it, there is a big yellow alert message that explains the limitations:

"Not all Google products support multiple sign-in. When switching between Google products, the account you’re currently using may change.

Google products not listed above will default to the first account that you signed in to using your current web browser session."

So, yeah... It's frustrating, but I understand how integrating multiple sign-in in all their apps might take some time.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by klipt »

bmj wrote: post #50
guywithabike wrote: post #12

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Not really. Facebook opened it up to entire colleges at a time. So once you were able to get on, most of your friends were able to, too.

What was FB's initial college roll out? Tens of thousands of users? I suspect Google would have several times that many in the few minutes of a full roll out.

FB's initial roll out was to people in the same (real life) social circles. You can't do social networking with a bunch of random people across the world.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by CamperBob »

muppetman wrote: post #259
farnsworth wrote: post #255

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If you are in the high school - college - internships - jobs life stage that lots of Facebook users are in, you have a high friend turnover rate. You meet lots of people who you want to add on Facebook, then later maybe you want to keep them around so you can see what they're up to but don't want their posts mixed in with posts from your current close friends. And there's a thousand variations and stages in between.

Well I respectfully disagree. I don't think it's too hard to figure out if someone is really a friend or just someone you've met a few times. And if add them just to "see what they're up to" then sure, you're going to get noise. I also think if you're adding people to your Facebook that have anything to do with your employment you're insane. But maybe it is because I am 30+ that these distinctions to me seem very cle…

The whole problem is that the word "friend" has about a hundred shades of meaning in life, work, and love. Facebook's biggest problem -- perhaps their only problem -- is that they refuse to acknowledge that fact.

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Post by [deleted] »

stanmancan wrote: post #159
darrenkopp wrote: post #118

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Yet again I'll be in a situation where I (potentially, hopefully) get invited but everyone else I know won't be, so I won't be able to use it. I think having this be invite only, especially where _Google_ is the entity doing the invites is a recipe for disaster. Now, if they make it so that invited users can invite a good amount of other users (say, 100), then I think they _may_ be able to salvage this. If not, I'm n…

Exactly. This is the same mistake they made with Wave, and it turned out horribly. I actually enjoyed the idea/concept of Wave, but I never had any reason to login and actually use it since I only had one other person I knew with an account. The same will happen to Google+.

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