Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

Post by laurent92 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

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I don't really get how trends like this one (and IMO that's just the tip of the ice berg – this is companies preparing for the inevitable legislation that will make most forms of tracking illegal within the next 10 years) don't affect facebook or google stock. This IMO makes two scenarios likely: 1) The market is currently just dragging along, hoping this will all go away and we're really in a major ad-bubble that's…

> All the personalized tracking shit can be replaced with a simple "users who clicked on canon printer also clicked on cheap ink refill kits" type of model That was how it was done for a long time. Advanced tracking was just a way to try and keep increasing revenue. Whether it worked or not, only the higher ups at these companies can tell... probably.

Post by chipotle_coyote » Fri, May 07, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

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Has apple ever said they were anti ads? I thought their position was that they were anti tracking without consent.

I would even go further and say that Apple doesn't care about anything other than making money by making good products. As more and more people begin to be concerned about privacy, Apple takes steps to try to reassure them that the phone is still a safe platform in which they can store private information such as photos, personal messages, address books, banking information, etc. Neither does Apple want a lot of anno…

Post by disgruntledphd2 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

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Of the data that I've seen, adtech has about as much legitimacy in claiming they "might" save lives as the TSA does.[1] The last year the TSA released the stats on their Red Team tests, they failed to detect 95% of threats. Some of the threats that made it through were fully assembled handguns, fully assembled bombs, and partially disassembled versions of both. As many have pointed out, the TSA is largely security th…

FWIW, I'm not necessarily saying that TSA's argument works out in practice. I'm just saying that they can at least try to make it. Versus, even if we give adtech a similar benefit of the doubt, and accept for the sake of argument that they really could more effectively convince me to buy the world's greatest fidget cube, there's still just no way that such an outcome is a great enough social good to justify the means…

Post by lrem » Fri, May 07, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

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Except it wasn’t hastily built, and the tracking isn’t controlled by a gov agency in the nefarious way that you’re implying.

I've seen all sorts of solutions put together by municipalities big and small from counties to states to countries and everything in between during this whole Covid thing and the thing that struck me is how easy it was for them to essentially track you with perfect precision and tie it back to a phone number. > Except it wasn’t hastily built They were built very hastily with little oversight with iterative beta cycle…

Post by disgruntledphd2 » Fri, May 07, 2021, 5:14 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #69

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Rivaled only by the indignity of those proudly and unironically proclaiming, “I own the result of my HTTP request and consider blocking ads and still taking advantage of not paying for content my god-given right.”

Honest question: are you, or have you ever been (or are you planning to be), someone with a direct financial stake in the ad industry? Employee, shareholder, board member, whatever. The answer to that question will greatly influence what we think of your witticism in the previous comment :-)