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Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by vibrunazo »

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

It's just an infrastructure problem. Hardware scaling is hard to get right. So it's easier for the engineers to have it released by small increments. This way you can slowly adjust hardware as the need arises. If any problems show up, it will be easier to track it down and fix it.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by vibrunazo »

ignifero wrote: post #270
vibrunazo wrote: post #265

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They didn't say anything yet. But yes, I'm sure they'll have some exciting API for us to toy with. AppEngine + Social Circles + Spark interest graph = drools

Looking at this: http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/policy/ it seems the data will be available through an api (i presume oauth )

That's very interesting and informative, thanks for sharing :)

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by mshron »

kissickas wrote: post #239
mshron wrote: post #143

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I haven't seen the demo, but the indications from the press is that circles can (and should) include groups of people.

Why is Gormo's comment dead? He was right, mshron misunderstands his parent's comment. The concern is that people can only be a part of one circle.

Right, I misread it. Also, I'm playing with it right now and you can put people into multiple circles.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by tonfa »

joebadmo wrote: post #247
Lewisham wrote: post #237

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I'm in the Field Trial. My understanding is that anything in a post can only be seen by the people who can see the post. Thus, if you share with a circle, people who do not know each other can see each others replies. It is all about who you chose to share to in the first place, they are the people you are trusting the information to. I would need to test this more fully, but that is my understanding of it.

That's basically how Google Reader does it, too. The problem is, as you said, if I comment on something someone shared, I have no idea who can see that comment. I was definitely a bit weirded out the first time someone I'd never met replied to a comment of mine on someone else's shared item.

In Google+, the list of people with whom an item is shared is visible.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by tonfa »

joebadmo wrote: post #235
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #224

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If it works like advertised only people in your circle can see the comment. Which leads to a weird experience for the commenter. To them they're essentially talking to just you while you're talking to your own circle. I'd be interesting in seeing a breakdown on how the circles intertwine. For example perhaps you have Jill in your coworkers circle and I have her in my friends circle. So presumable our communications a…

Yes, that is another great illustration of how complex and unclear this system of individual lists is. Now imagine the same scenario under the Places metaphor. You go to the "Work Friends" place and share an item. Jill, who is also in that place has access to the exact same list of people that are in the place and so knows exactly who she is talking to when she comments on that shared item. No confusion.

Google+ works in the way you describe (when you comment you know who can view the post).

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by mg74 »

nollidge wrote: post #169
beck5 wrote: post #49

Circles is very interesting, its could solve a work/life/parents social battle I fight, however the demo only allows you to add a person to one circle, I hope this is just a demo limitation, as my sister is also my 'friend'.

I'm also wondering if your friends will be aware of what group(s) you've put them into. Like, will Fred be able to see that he's in my "Work" group, but be jealous because he can see that Peggy is in both "Work" and "Drinking Buddies"?

No. One of the videos makes this clear.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by metageek »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #180
stef25 wrote: post #158

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Personally, I've got about half a dozen interests that I only want to share with people who find it relevant or interesting, like your example about tech/coding stuff. I don't share that either but I would if I could better control who it goes out to. This feature sounds great to me.

That's exactly what I was getting at. And I think most people are in similar situations. But Google+ and Circles will only work right if all your friends use it. Otherwise it'll be just another network to update with specific content.

They've got an answer for that: you can add someone who doesn't have an account to a circle, and they'll get your message in email.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by metageek »

Roritharr wrote: post #117
kristiandupont wrote: post #96

This is exciting and all -- and much as I would love to see a serious competitor to Facebook, I still don't know how I would convince any of my non-techie friends that they should switch to this. Circles? Actually I think that many people like the idea of their posts are being read by as many people as possible and not just the ones with similar interests. Although it looks like a big discussion group, the news feed…

If Google has enough money to develop self driving cars, there has to be some for the development of remote seduction.

Yeah, but who wants to seduce a car?

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by bincat »

pthatcherg wrote: post #249
IgorPartola wrote: post #245

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The solution is simple: move away from using Google for searches. There are alternatives like Bing, Yahoo and Duck Duck Go.

Don't Yahoo and DDG use Bing for their search results? If so, Bing is the only alternative on your list.

I'd add https://ixquick.com to the list.

Also, using a search engine directly is not the same thing as using it through one of these intermediaries (especially while logged in).

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