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Still, as a heavy terminal user, I fail to understand what's the big deal with the choice of terminal. I have used only xterm for more than 20 years (with a short stint with gnome-terminal, and I didn't find any relevant difference). It starts instantaneously and doesn't make any fuss while it's running. Is there anything important that I'm losing?
"Obsoleted" is a word? I've only heard "made obsolete" before, or replaced/discontinued/deprecated.
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True, but tabs are something built into tiling window managers like Sway. If you want a fast terminal with tabs then I'd recommend kitty.
Can you group tabs in Sway? I have a lot of tabs open and each window represents a specific group. I navigate primarily by keyboard, and having grouped tabs keeps me organized. I'll give Kitty a shot. I've been using konsole recently and it works for the most part, except when sending files through picocom. ctrl-a+s pops up a message about terminal flow control even though the keystroke is intercepted by picocom and…
"Obsoleted" is a word? I've only heard "made obsolete" before, or replaced/discontinued/deprecated.
I find this kind of interaction interesting having used both termite and alacritty. Honestly I would have never expected maintainers of what I perceived as a fairly popular terminal to just go, welp use the other guys. This is kind of neat. I had already been using alacritty for a while because it had wayland support, even though it has some weird bugs on my current i3 setup where creating a new terminal just creates…
I think the explanation lies here: > VTE is a terrible base for building a modern, fast and safe terminal emulator. It's slow, brittle and difficult to improve. It sounds like the maintainers of termite had a miserable time dealing with VTE, and are glad to see the back of it.
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I know it's fun for people to hate on GNOME but if you actually read the bug reports, the feature was not rejected. The patch was rejected in favor of a different way to implement the feature.
Having observed this for a while that often seems to be just the way Gnome works. Patches that help non-Gnome projects are held to a much higher (sometimes unobtainable) standard than patches that help members of the Gnome foundation. It seems very insular, and if you want to "scratch your own itch" as an outsider expect to take 5-20x as much effort for the same feature. There will always be a reason why this patch i…
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Dumb question perhaps, but why does startup time matter much for a terminal emulator of the tabbed / multi-window variety? E.g. Konsole uses one process for all windows and tabs, so it only really starts when you close every terminal.
Because of tiled window managers. Having many terminals open is often more ergonomic than the terminal's tab support.
I have no beef with gtk/gnome and the like, but I find it really funny when developers use such colorful language. Still, as a heavy terminal user, I fail to understand what's the big deal with the choice of terminal. I have used only xterm for more than 20 years (with a short stint with gnome-terminal, and I didn't find any relevant difference). It starts instantaneously and doesn't make any fuss while it's running.…
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True, but tabs are something built into tiling window managers like Sway. If you want a fast terminal with tabs then I'd recommend kitty.
Can you group tabs in Sway? I have a lot of tabs open and each window represents a specific group. I navigate primarily by keyboard, and having grouped tabs keeps me organized. I'll give Kitty a shot. I've been using konsole recently and it works for the most part, except when sending files through picocom. ctrl-a+s pops up a message about terminal flow control even though the keystroke is intercepted by picocom and…
When you subsequently want to move a group of things around, you can focus the parent container and move it around as though it were a window. (Out of the box, Super+a is `focus parent`, though curiously there’s no `focus child` binding in the default config, so to return to a child you pretty much have to focus a sibling or another container, or use the mouse.)
Alacritty is very slow on startup, I use a tiling manager and spawn new terminals frequently so this is very noticeable. I use st which is super fast and has everything I need available through patches
Can you quantify that? Are you talking multiple countable seconds to open? It seems to open instantly for me but I can't tell if your talking about 0.5s or 5s being slow.