UFOs shows government competence as either surprisingly high or low

If you read my comment that you initially replied to you would see that I was talking about the FLIR1/Nimitz video.

You're the one who brought up Go Fast, I have made no comments about that here.

> The proposed explanation is that the object was a much bigger commercial plane than they thought, much further away.

I don't know which "proposed explanation" you're referring to but in a recent debate between Mick West and Robert Powell of the SCU hosted by John Greenewald of theblackvault.com, Mick said he thinks it was an F-18.

Neither explanation makes sense because the aircraft's radar has far greater range than the ATFLIR camera so if an aircraft showed up on the ATFLIR it also should have been seen on radar. In addition the Princeton's AEGIS radar system was monitoring the airspace within at least a 100 mile radius and would certainly also have detected any ordinary aircraft that could have been seen by the ATFLIR.

Definitely agree with that.

Maybe all of this is just the government or the corporate interests trying to get out in front of this narrative because there's been a proliferation of speculation growing over the last couple of years and now they intend to go full bluebook style to try to put an end to that to try to control the narrative, and maybe, in line with that, they'll come out and say, look all of this stuff is either misinterpreted data or it's our own classified projects and we can say no more about it. In an attempt to shut down that speculation which is really started to get a major foothold in the mass consciousness.

Or maybe they're going to throw their arms up in the air and say we have no fucking idea what's going on, leaving the door slightly ajar for more information to come out in future.

I'm not optimistic we're going to see a big reveal, such as, these are the trading agreements we have with extraterrestrial civilizations and these are all the devices and recovered objects and craft we've reverse engineered and these are the different types of extra terrestrials that were aware of and oh by the way sorry for gaslighting you and intimidating witnesses over the last 60 years, and sorry for rubber stamping programs of alien genetic experimentation on Earth but please don't blame us the aliens twisted our arm. But you never know.

I actually think the government is basically like a pinata in this issue I think they're the ones that cop blame but I think that's by design I think the real movers and shakers behind all this have to be corporate interests some sort of corporate funded military industrial deep state that controls and utilizes this technology and information.

I think it's rather unfortunate that it's sort of the government's job to be The whipping boy and to take all the public blame and for everyone sort of blame the government for all their suppressing the technology but I don't think it's actually the government at all.

And I certainly don't buy the explanation that people simply couldn't handle it. I think it's much more likely that it's a cabal of corporate interests that simply wants to control this advantage and not have it sort of opened up. I think the sad reality is in this issue the government answers to those interests.

I think all of the narrative we have about this all of the stories of galactic civilizations all of the really detailed so-called whistleblower testimony I think it's all an elaborate mythological disinformation narrative crafted by the corporate interests that want to control whatever this phenomenon, technology and information is. and the more conflict there is between different groups, the more some people are true believers some people are true to bunkers, the better that is for the disinformation agents because that controlled opposition, that triggered conflict, gives them ample opportunities to control the narrative and protect their own interests.

After trying to absorb a lot of this information reflect on it and study things in this space the last couple of years that's one perspective I have that is pretty strong and compelling to me right now. I would love for it to be different so let's wait and see.

Yeah there aren’t three fixed points of either disbelief, true middle ground, or belief. It’s a spectrum and I fall more towards the disbelief point in this case, but that doesn’t stop me from critically evaluating the possibility that I’m on the wrong end of the spectrum

I agree and that's where I think we should be. I don't agree with your interpretation that it's only evidence of our inability to collect evidence I agree with your ambiguity. I have no idea what this is about I have no personal experiences of any of this but I don't doubt the people who say they have. What I doubt is the so called program insider whistler blower testimony. maybe that's ungenerous of me but I just suspect that it's probably easier to run a disinformation campaign with a small number of vocal so-called insiders actually just disinfo agents than it is, to get all of these people making up stories.

Tho as other people have said maybe they're just copying other people. Which I think is a good point but I'm reluctant to believe that. I genuinely trust the people who come forward and say this crazy shit happened. Because there's so many of them and it's gone on for such a long time. Also, i see there's no motivation to fabricate, not because there's no money and no fame, not because people are uninterested in money and fame, it's just because I don't think that so many people are so morally corrupt that they would just invent this stuff as a way to get money and fame for themselves. I guess I just have a little more faith in people perhaps a little too much faith than to think that.

Yeah it's funny that we don't even have an agreement as to what the logical reasonable stance on this topic is. I think that's maybe an indication of how far out this topic is in terms of how far away it is from our human faculty of logic and understanding to be able to make sense of it. That alone I think is reason enough to just basically distrust a lot of things about this and keep an open mind.