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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Having never heard of bitchute, I just checked it out. It’s basically just right wing nut job stuff. I think LiveLeak at least was a little more “balanced”, in that it was about entertaining content, regardless of the political ideology.

I watched liveleak to see people get beheaded, not for conspiracies.

Aren't they both weird?

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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> but even then I think the reddit admins were hell-bent on shutting down any subs they didn't personally like. Or shutting down subs that might make the site advertiser unfriendly.

I really think for something like a violent video archive to do as much good as possible, it needs to be entirely grant funded. Aside from the obviously problematic approach of monetizing violence, I don't think you can be too heavy-handed in protecting privacy with this sort of thing. Though I wonder how this might change with deepfake videos gaining momentum. I think the entire venture would be really expensive to…

Grant funded? So you'd have people paying taxes to their government so their government could publish graphic videos of their loved ones dying in awful ways? That's beyond adding insult to injury.

If such videos must be published, I'd rather not be made to pay for it. Monetizing violence isn't great either, but at least I'm not forced by law to be involved in it myself.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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It's powerful, important content, but collecting and promoting it as shock entertainment, entirely out of context, doesn't strike me as the right way to do it. Our media's lack of willingness to portray the human cost of our overseas exploits is clearly a huge problem, but I don't think this really addressed it. It's all impact without usable information. While incredibly violent things do happen in the world regular…

WatchPeopleDie was supposed to do this. I wish the mods had been better about the garbage comments, but even then I think the reddit admins were hell-bent on shutting down any subs they didn't personally like. But I agree fullheartedly. Seeing such things really made me 'feel' how precious life is and how terrible the world can be. It helped me navigate moving to Europe a few times, even.

Buddhist monks visualize gore for enlightenment purposes.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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> These “boring” things take on more importance when you can see what happens when you ignore them. Couldn't agree more. When I was a 7 years old, a road near my home was undergo an expansion. The work involves a lots of heavy and big machines, including heavy trucks etc. During that time, me and almost all other kid was warned to not go near those machines, "Don't play near those things, it's dangerous". But none of…

> Many years later, after I've grow up and start to understand the value of lives, one day I stumble upon a video showing a middle school aged student ridding a bike down a road, and got crashed by a turning lorry Unfortunately, this is a relatively common way for cyclists to die. The easy way to prevent it is to never try to pass a truck/lorry near an intersection.

Even if there's a car ahead of a lorry at a red light, I'll stick a few feet behind the lorry until I can pass it mid-block. Big truck drivers have so much to pay attention to while city driving, it's easy to forget that cyclists exist.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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War and terrorism was definitely made “more real” on LiveLeak than what you’d experience via the media or YouTube. I also found a real appreciation for other things: driving safely, worker protections, fire safety. These “boring” things take on more importance when you can see what happens when you ignore them. I don't think people should dwell on these morbid things. But seeing just one or two videos of, for example…

It's weird that phrasing the reality of it is considered distasteful. "Child killed in collision with vehicle" is sanitary. "Driver smashes child's brain with their bumper" less so. Yet we might not let drivers get away with killing 40,000 people a year in the US if we spoke clearly about it.

Road safety advocates have been lobbying journalists to use 'crash not accident' for years. Even here on HN many people shoot that down as anti-motorist. People like their cars/trucks and don't like being reminded of their danger and responsibility.

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The vast majority of car "accidents" (more properly collisions) are the predictable result of policy choices.

What policy change could possibly be made to make people better drivers?

Public transit and grade-separated bike lanes.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Thanks! Still learning Aussie!

It's not quite a pickup truck. It's more an elongated car with the rear passenger area traded for a tray to carry things around in. Though having said that, the terms are often confused.

Like an El Camino but more Aussie?

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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What policy change could possibly be made to make people better drivers?

Your tone suggests you can't imagine any, which is... surprising. There are a vast array of things you can do to make driving safer, at the cost of making it less accessible and/or more expensive. Different countries already set their threshold differently - in the US, a driving test takes 20 minutes and everyone passes, while in the UK it takes 40 minutes and most people fail the first time. And lo and behold, 4 tim…

> despite narrower roads and overwhelmingly manual transmissions.

You say this like you'd expect manual transmissions to increase the accident rates? If anything I'd suspect the opposite - much harder to be distracted on your phone, eating food, etc when you need both hands to be able to drive. It also keeps your mind more engaged if you're shifting gears all the time (obviously doesn't apply to highway driving where you can sit in the same gear for miles on end but at least my intuition tells me the highway isn't where most accidents occur).

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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> same with odysee and other alternative sites. I just loaded the front page of Odysee. Here is a summary of the top videos it shows me: explanation of a helicopter accident, SpaceX SN15, corgis, green house design, guinea pigs, GPU review, Democratic Socialist, and a Godzilla vs Kong comic. That doesn't track with your opinion of the site.

Okay? And when I loaded it just now, I see "Should I get married", Steven Crowler shenanigans, some self-defense videos, etc. I haven't been there just once.

Sounds like there is all kind of videos on there. Just like YouTube.
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