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Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by igorgue »

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

Don't you think it's kinda silly to think these "build hype" signup processes kill products?

Github did the same in fact they recommend people to do it, and they're very successful.

I agree it's a little frustrating but it's the kind of frustration that makes you go back when the site is open for signups and signup. Nothing bad... Google Wave might just be an exception of this technique and people didn't use it because of the complexity of the product not because it made them wait to get an invite.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

beck5 wrote: post #65

Do people trust Google more than Facebook? and could that be a factor in adoption? My gut says probably not to both questions.

Biggest factor in adoption is product perception. People associate Google with finding information. Not with playing. They associate Facebook with games and pictures. They associate Twitter with celebrities and gossip. Apple with trendy devices. It's extremely hard for any of these companies to leap into another area and break that cognitive barrier no matter how good the product is. Especially when the product is deeply connected to the existing popular product. A lot of people think integration is an advantage but only if it's integrating related things. For something totally different it's better to create a new brand.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by glhaynes »

CraigRood wrote: post #58
glhaynes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Facebook, why don't you just hide the people you're not interested in?

Thats not how its works. For me the problem is the content, not the people behind it.

But if their content is all being funneled off to a "spam/noise" area, are you ever going to actually check that area? If not, they're effectively hidden.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by mikemaccana »

cryptoz wrote: post #21
mikemaccana wrote: post #13

Android app is on the market. Note it eats 8MB of phone memory and can't be moved to SD.

Are you really concerned about 8MB? Are there even Android phones on the market today that ship with less than 8GB of space?

> Are you really concerned about 8MB? Are there even Android phones on the market today that ship with less than 8GB of space?

I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S II. It's a 500 GBP (800 USD) phone. It has 2GB of memory.

The first gen and second gen android phones (which may be less than a year old) typically have 128 and 512 MB.

So yes, having 8MB x (amount of apps that can't be stored on SD) taken from memory until you uninstall the app is huge.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by owenmarshall »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #87
owenmarshall wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm afraid it might not be What leads you to that conclusion? Any article I've seen hints at the opposite. I'd be shocked if, as you note, they intentionally cripple one of the core components of this site.

I went and looked back at the Techcrunch article and it appears that some of the people in their "bike geeks" circle still appear in the top dragable area of people, so maybe they didn't screw this up after all. It seems really bizarre for them to miss something like this in the demo. It is a demo , after all.

    > It is a demo, after all.
It's a goal driven demo that seemingly exists solely to show off the animations.

I would agree that a more free-form demo would be interesting, and could be less confusing, but it wouldn't fit as well with the rest of the tour page, IMO.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

yalogin wrote: post #71
wccrawford wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree. Wave died partially because when I got it, my friends didn't have it. And by the time the last of them got it, the rest of us didn't care any more. Had we been able to all get on at once, we might have found a killer app for it and never given it up.

Wave died because no one (not even developers) understood what it is or what applications could it have outside of mail.

Wave was great for project management. It was project management without the rigid structure.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by sinaiman »

The problem with Facebook is that your network is too small and constricted, people want to expand and reach many many people, not stay limited within their circle. Think about it, you already talk to most of the people who are your closest friends in real life via phone and chat. You don't need yet another way to contact them. They should have taken the opportunity to bring down the barriers of the closed social graph.

Instead Google makes another Facebook with a different UI. It looks like a cleaner Myspace that will be embraced by a small set of techy users. No way will this ever be cool.

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