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LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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I'm saddened to hear this! For me, LiveLeak was a real life Safety Training video catalog plus much more. Comments weren't the best attribute of the site but you could keep yourself informed without having to participate. I think that most users related to site it in their own personal way. Some came to view gory videos, some to express their views, while others to see what's new with world.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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LiveLeak definitely had the ability to change you. There was a video from a dashcam where a couple is driving down a road, and a brick or rock falls off a truck driving the opposite way. It bounces on the road before slamming through the windshield and instantly killing the wife sitting in the passenger seat. Whenever I feel like a member of my family has gotten on my last nerve, pushed me to my limit, I think of the…

Be careful with that stuff. There are only so many scars you can accumulate before it really affects you. Life will give you scars all by itself eventually, no need to seek them out.

Or, you can embrace the abyss and find out what's on the other side.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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post #515

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I imagine there are several. American driver education and testing are notoriously lax compared to much of the world; make driver testing more intensive and frequent. Traffic enforcement is geared more towards municipal income generation and the facilitating of searches and arrests for other crimes than toward ensuring safe driving; stop pulling over poor people to search for drugs and start photographing and billing…

What's a stroad?

A combination between a street and a road.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-07/defining-...

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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I remember they used to show bad car crashes as part of the training you could take to reduce the number of penalty points (Polish road code, accumulate 24, lose your driving license). My colleague, who was a bit of a petrolhead, took it. It made him drive safe(r) at least for a few weeks.

Safety is in bad company these days because it's so often (I'd say 10:1, probably even 100:1) presented by people who have ulterior self serving motives (typically they have no skin in the game and are just in it for the virtue points). It's one thing to have a driver's ed instructor, your plant manager or someone else in a position of authority who presumably knows what they're talking about and has at least some se…

What a strange and cynical view to hold. Maybe people talk about safety out of a genuine care of others? Or maybe they are into doing things safely and like to share that.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Yeah it's sadly the same with odysee and other alternative sites.

> same with odysee and other alternative sites. I just loaded the front page of Odysee. Here is a summary of the top videos it shows me: explanation of a helicopter accident, SpaceX SN15, corgis, green house design, guinea pigs, GPU review, Democratic Socialist, and a Godzilla vs Kong comic. That doesn't track with your opinion of the site.

Okay? And when I loaded it just now, I see "Should I get married", Steven Crowler shenanigans, some self-defense videos, etc. I haven't been there just once.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

#616

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

That's a very good point. Bit of a shame to only learn the importance of it after it shuts down. Is there any alternative?

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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I do hope you also understand our reasons I mean, I'd like to try, except he didn't actually give us any of those reasons. Rest in peace, LiveLeak. You were a beacon of reality that shone through the propaganda, the bullshit, and the sugar-coating. Your demise means that people who want to see something like a shooting that's been removed from mainstream platforms will be forced to visit darker corners of the interne…

> Now if someone asks me "Hey where can I go see that thing that was taken off of Youtube" I don't have a ready answer that isn't an alt-right cesspool. Does this mean that only the alt-right have access to uncensored information?

Man I never thought of it that way, when you state it like that its almost poetic.

What could make me love the established media more than a narrative that 'uncensored truth' would turn me into some kind of QAnon zombie.

I simply cannot handle it.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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I remember American TV regularly showing things like Palestinian children blown to bits back in nineties, or atrocities of wars in Africa, and then it somehow just disappeared.

Showing these kind of things has always been against the ethical standards of journalism and exceptions to it used to be discussed intensively by editors - excluding the tabloid yellow press who make their living from this trash, of course. I guess some of the more recent American TV channels realized at some point, after they had gained fame for showing everything, that quotas are not everything and that relatives u…

You haven't explained why my view of the world should be decided by a bunch of rich corporate media guys. This filtering is exactly why newspapers and TV news are going away. The Internet can show you what actually happened not some filtered, preened, and positioned propaganda. It is not your responsibility to control other people's emotions and reactions to real life events.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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post #515

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine there are several. American driver education and testing are notoriously lax compared to much of the world; make driver testing more intensive and frequent. Traffic enforcement is geared more towards municipal income generation and the facilitating of searches and arrests for other crimes than toward ensuring safe driving; stop pulling over poor people to search for drugs and start photographing and billing…

What's a stroad?

I tried writing an answer, realized I suck at that, and so am providing a link that answers the question better than I can:

https://www.bikede.org/2011/11/28/we-have-too-many-stroads/

The takeaway is that streets and roads have different goals, and when that's not acknowledged we wind up with the misery that is driving in US towns.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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It's amazing the narrative that is spun around cars and the deaths they cause. Take a closer look at the "accident" reports you see in newspapers. It's disgusting how many times reports of people and children getting hit on sidewalks, sitting on benches, etc is spun as their fault for not getting out of the way of the person driving the car!! There's been a bit of a grassroots push to get journalists to stop calling…

Source or example? I have difficulty in believing anyone in their right mind would victim blame someone sitting on a bench for not getting out of the way of a car. This reeks of urban legend or motivated anti-motorist propoganda. The motor vehicle would have to have completely departed from the designated motorway and would as a result be completely at fault. Failure to respond to signal is also the motorist's fault,…

It's not so much anti-motorist propaganda, but rather street safety advocacy to remind drivers that 'accidents' are mostly avoidable.

I don't have any news stories at the ready, but next time you see an article like 'Man, 30, dead after being hit by SUV' take a look at the comment section. I guarantee there will be multiple people asking if he was outside of a crosswalk, or noting how people need to get off their phones when walking. There's usually an absence of talking about the driver, because usually they are not mentioned apart from 'the driver stayed on scene and is cooperating with the police'. Advocates of 'crash not accident' would like the headline to be rewritten such as 'Driver hits and kills 30-year-old man with SUV'. A headline like that hopefully leads people to question whether the driver was speeding, on their phone, etc.

https://www.roadpeace.org/download/crash-not-accident-briefi...

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