Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+ • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by njl » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:55 PM UTC

frisco wrote: post #9

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

In fairness, Facebook did the same thing.

No. Facebook created a collection of small social networks centered around existing real-world communities, then finally linked up all of those small social networks into a single, larger social network. This allowed them to reach saturation on a campus-by-campus basis, until they had finally progressed far enough to reach a tipping point in society at large.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by fedd » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:55 PM UTC

too complex to use may affect usage negatively. too many features is not always good. trying to mimic real live brings the complexities of real life to the web.

check this:

"With Hangouts, the unplanned meet-up comes to the web for the first time. Let specific buddies (or entire circles) know you’re hanging out and then see who drops by for a face-to-face-to-face chat. Until teleportation arrives, it’s the next best thing."

imagine a jerk that noone loves intruding all the hangouts. but everybody too polite/dependant to unfriend

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by mshron » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:56 PM UTC

frisco wrote: post #9

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

In fairness, Facebook did the same thing.

Maybe Google will be smart enough to let people through in groups that they believe to be socially linked by their online exhaust. They've got a decent sense of these things already.

Otherwise, it's really not the same thing at all.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by risico » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:58 PM UTC

cskau wrote: post #5

This thing is pretty neat though: http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/demo/

Indeed, I really love the use of Maps API.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by waterside81 » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:58 PM UTC

cskau wrote: post #5

This thing is pretty neat though: http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/demo/

When I saw some of the cool effects using Circles/Loops whatever it's called, I was excited, thinking they had done it in CSS3. But sadly, all Flash.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by Klonoar » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:59 PM UTC

The HTML5 system allows users to drag-and-drop their friends into different social circles for friends, family, classmates, co-workers and other custom groups.

That "HTML5" there is simply for buzz effect. Seriously, come on already...

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by wccrawford » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:59 PM UTC

mikemaccana wrote: post #13

Android app is on the market. Note it eats 8MB of phone memory and can't be moved to SD.

I love how the ratings are all about being able to download it, but not use it.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by haberman » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:59 PM UTC

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

> WHY?! WHY are they doing this again?

Maybe they want to work out the kinks before having 10 million users instantly. The privacy aspect of this will be very important, and the Buzz launch is an example of how opening up to everyone at the same time led to a large backlash.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by ben1040 » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:59 PM UTC

cryptoz wrote: post #21

mikemaccana wrote: post #13

Android app is on the market. Note it eats 8MB of phone memory and can't be moved to SD.

Are you really concerned about 8MB? Are there even Android phones on the market today that ship with less than 8GB of space?

By default, Android phones store apps on an onboard storage location that is separate from the SD card. On some older phones there is not a whole lot of space here. For example it didn't take a whole lot at all for me to fill up my Nexus One's app partition.

It wasn't until 2.2 that the option to move apps to a encrypted location on the SD card was added, and even then it's an option that has to be enabled by the developer who released the app.

Newer phones these days have more onboard space and this shouldn't be nearly as big an issue. I upgraded to an HTC Thunderbolt on Saturday and it has roughly 2GB available for onboard apps.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by Periodic » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 6:00 PM UTC

fedd wrote: post #32

too complex to use may affect usage negatively. too many features is not always good. trying to mimic real live brings the complexities of real life to the web. check this: "With Hangouts, the unplanned meet-up comes to the web for the first time. Let specific buddies (or entire circles) know you’re hanging out and then see who drops by for a face-to-face-to-face chat. Until teleportation arrives, it’s the next best…

I'm sure they'll allow private video chats. Hangouts is for when you are specifically "browsing". It'll be just as if you lived right down the street from your mother, siblings, aunts, coworkers, friends...

It currently is this way in the text world though. That annoying guy who argues with everything you post on Facebook or Twitter. And the worst part is you can't un-friend him because he's your weird uncle.