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Post by op00to »

throwawaysea wrote: post #25
nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

Agree. I was never that cognizant of what ISIS/ISIL/Daesh were capable of until I saw videos on LiveLeak that made it all very real. You won’t find those anywhere else, but I dare say that the emotions those stir in the viewer create political clarities that are razor sharp, in a way you can’t get through overly academic and stoic news articles.

It’s almost as if the propaganda is working.

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Post by hackerbabz »

o-__-o wrote: post #213
ddingus wrote: post #203

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Those are the worst. They have a mild case and there basically is no convincing them otherwise, unless someone close to them has a different experience.

>unless someone close to them has a different experience. my partner could not give two trucks that i was sick. through the sleepless gasping nights where i was wondering if it was time to go to the hospital, my partner blamed it on anxiety. when i couldn't feel my feet, my partner thought it was due to me not eating (because food tasted like paper). this all culminated with my partner calling me lazy for sleeping al…

Speaking as someone who’s parents when waited to get divorced until I went to college, I think I would have been less messed up if they’d been honest and mature enough to get divorced when they’d wanted to.

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Post by dudeman13 »

nonbirithm wrote: post #348
artificialLimbs wrote: post #46

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I saw a couple/few videos on LL and it shocked me to the core. I never wanted to see that kind of thing again. But I also wish that everyone could witness it without becoming psychotic about it, to have a visual imprint of 'as bad as it gets', and hopefully do something about it or at least avoid perpetuating those actions. But that would never happen. A whole lot of people will go to very desperate measures to avoid…

What does this say about people who cannot see this kind of footage without becoming traumatized? Is it right to just call them incapable of handling the truth? I had seen some things in the past, on similar channels (4chan). The result was that when someone else had to drive me somewhere on a freeway I became so hopelessly anxious that I was constantly reminding them to drive slower, or just not drive me at all, bec…

>Is it right to call them incapable of handling the truth?

Yes. Do notice I removed the "just" from the quote.

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Post by hellbannedguy »

skrebbel wrote: post #314
plank_time wrote: post #234

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But that’s life. I have 2 friends that died in a car accident. They were in their mid-20s. A split second accident. If they didn’t drive that night, they probably would never get as close to death as they did that night. But it happened and all their efforts were erased in a second. It’s not just war that causes that.

The difference is not only the scale of things but especially that a war is caused by people, on purpose, too often with the consent of their population. Car accidents are exactly that, accidents.

There's a part of me that that thinks there are no accidents. Yes--that whole Freud thing.

As I have aged, I do think their are accidents, and life is a gamble. It has always bothered me the rich can afford to take chances, but that's another story.

I still think it's best to think you can control your fate with most acccidents though.

In high school, and college, I drove without insurance. (California used to require auto insurance, but didn't mandate it at DMV. I honestly couldn't afford it.)

I used to think of driving as walking on a cliff's edge. You just don't make a mistake. It did work, but I probally got very lucky too.

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Post by timeslip1523 »

thrwaeasddsaf wrote: post #359
Aeolun wrote: post #275

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Yes, the premise of what you read is correct, but the conclusion you make seems different. People aren’t killing themselves, so even if their life sucks in many ways they must have found enough good things in the world to balance them out. The original premise somewhere further up was that poor people are never happy. I guess I should have used a less extreme point.

Yeah I don't think people or animals have a built-in "suicide if life sux" instinct built into them. Most will just suffer and suffer until it ends.

Weird that people do commit suicide, then.

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Post by sundvor »

hrktb wrote: post #293
Aeolun wrote: post #135

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> what you'd see most of the time is actually soldiers doing nothing True, but that part of the reality of war is hardly relevant. I don’t need to emphasize with the bored soldiers. That’s part of life for me too. I emphathize with the bored soldiers that suddenly had a massive bomb land in their midst.

Isn’t it actually an issue that soldiers are so bored in completely remote places for months and months? People engaging in the army to get some hot action sure would have liked to know more about that aspect, and for better or worse the general public’s perception would also be different when accurately imagining x thousands of trained people stuck in the desert doing nothing 99% of the time.

“War is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror.”

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Post by doublerabbit »

varispeed wrote: post #405
Mandatum wrote: post #13

The fact they were HQ'd in London always confused me. Yes the EU gives you some protections, but taking a pseudonymous TPB-style approach is probably easier for everyone (support, operations, management, marketing) than the legal grey area LiveLeak operated in. Also the end of the note from Hayden sticks with me, I know the type of videos or users he's referring to and I don't think the majority of readers will reali…

The new EU regulation makes hosting of such sites no longer possible. Probably that's why they closed. I think that many more sites like this will be closed. Take a look: https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/04/the-eus-terrorist-content...

That makes the most sense.

To sieve through all the content and delete would be a painful task as well as it making the site look bare. Easier to rebrand and throw up content that wasn't NSFL.

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Post by syshum »

madeofpalk wrote: post #418
capableweb wrote: post #372

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Of course "cesspool" is bad, "alt-right cesspool" is the same amount of badness. The reason you don't see a lot of "alt-left cesspool"s is because usually those people don't need to hide on alternative social media, as the mainstream ones are fine with alt-left people. Alt-right are the ones who are currently being fired if their opinion are being shared publicly. Now I'm neither of those, and have no fists in the fi…

Let be clear here though - usually the "alt-right" viewpoints that people are (supposedly) fired for are... violent, or call for discrimination or other things like that. There's no huge threat of people being fired for wanting less regulation on companies.

You say that but I have been called racist, and other *ist's for my basic libertarian views

Also there are huge sections of the population (some even on this very forum) that believe calls for deregulation, less government spending, reduction in social programs, etc are "violence"

Also people seem to bend over backwards to excuse the real and actual violence that occurs and is supported in authoritarian left circles, pushing the narrative as you have that violence only occurs on the right

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Post by capableweb »

madeofpalk wrote: post #418
capableweb wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course "cesspool" is bad, "alt-right cesspool" is the same amount of badness. The reason you don't see a lot of "alt-left cesspool"s is because usually those people don't need to hide on alternative social media, as the mainstream ones are fine with alt-left people. Alt-right are the ones who are currently being fired if their opinion are being shared publicly. Now I'm neither of those, and have no fists in the fi…

Let be clear here though - usually the "alt-right" viewpoints that people are (supposedly) fired for are... violent, or call for discrimination or other things like that. There's no huge threat of people being fired for wanting less regulation on companies.

As I don't myself move around in those circles a lot, I can't say "usually" or "typically" because I don't have any insight in those parts.

Since you are of a very black & white impression of a large swaths of people, I'm assuming you're in the same boat as me.

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Post by madeofpalk »

capableweb wrote: post #429
madeofpalk wrote: post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let be clear here though - usually the "alt-right" viewpoints that people are (supposedly) fired for are... violent, or call for discrimination or other things like that. There's no huge threat of people being fired for wanting less regulation on companies.

As I don't myself move around in those circles a lot, I can't say "usually" or "typically" because I don't have any insight in those parts. Since you are of a very black & white impression of a large swaths of people, I'm assuming you're in the same boat as me.

What are those wholesome alt-right viewpoints?
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