Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5 • Hacker News Board

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#11

Post by thailandstartup » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:49 PM UTC

It's counterintuitive but Adobe should be working on a project like this.

A decent server side SWF->HTML5 would enable existing websites to offer the first class experience (the SWF) to Flash enabled browsers, and push a HTML5 conversion for non-Flash browsers (Apple mobile devices). It would shaft Apple (Why does this run so slow on the iPad?) and slow the move away from Flash (Adobe could still make a credible 'runs everywhere' argument).

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#12

Post by johnhenry » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:51 PM UTC

I can't help but wonder if content owners might view this as a threat to the security of their flash creations. Afterall, this is essentially a decompiler, isn't it?

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#13

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:51 PM UTC

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Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#14

Post by jbwyme » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:52 PM UTC

thailandstartup wrote: post #11

It's counterintuitive but Adobe should be working on a project like this. A decent server side SWF->HTML5 would enable existing websites to offer the first class experience (the SWF) to Flash enabled browsers, and push a HTML5 conversion for non-Flash browsers (Apple mobile devices). It would shaft Apple (Why does this run so slow on the iPad?) and slow the move away from Flash (Adobe could still make a credible 'run…

http://mashable.com/2011/03/08/adobe-wallaby/

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#15

Post by jvandenbroeck » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:53 PM UTC

I don't know if that's a smart move from Google.

It would be a good thing for Google to have users frustrated with Flash websites that don't work in iOS. Now they are helping Apple giving users a great experience on iOS?

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#16

Post by watty » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:54 PM UTC

I tried a handful of random SWF files from my dropbox and none of them worked. Several were due to AS 3.0, which isn't supported but even simplest animation said "The #initclip pragma is not supported.".

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#17

Post by thailandstartup » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:54 PM UTC

jbwyme wrote: post #14

thailandstartup wrote: post #11

It's counterintuitive but Adobe should be working on a project like this. A decent server side SWF->HTML5 would enable existing websites to offer the first class experience (the SWF) to Flash enabled browsers, and push a HTML5 conversion for non-Flash browsers (Apple mobile devices). It would shaft Apple (Why does this run so slow on the iPad?) and slow the move away from Flash (Adobe could still make a credible 'run…

http://mashable.com/2011/03/08/adobe-wallaby/

Wallaby is a feature of the IDE to publish as HTML5 - it doesn't seek to address all the SWF content that is already out there.

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#18

Post by jbwyme » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 4:55 PM UTC

pornel wrote: post #8

> Which browsers support Swiffy output? > Swiffy uses SVG features that are currently only supported by Webkit-based browsers such as Safari (on desktop and mobile) and Chrome. That's not the HTML5 future I wanted :( In Opera it fails due to JS errors that don't look SVG-specific. It's a shame, because Opera's SVG support is a bit more complete than WebKit's: http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php (sadly the Swiffy…

I don't think this is indicative of the future of HTML5 and I'm not so sure there will be a reason to use these SWF->HTML5 converters other than maybe a head start on re-developing your application. Have you tried converting a PDF to word? Converters for proprietary technologies haven't proven to be very effective.

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#19

Post by efnx » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:09 PM UTC

The major downside is that most webshops are and have been using Actionscript 3 for the past 5 years. Has anyone compiled any AS3 with this?

Re: Swiffy: convert SWF files to HTML5

#20

Post by fedorabbit » Tue, Jun 28, 2011, 5:11 PM UTC

My experience of HTML5 right now doesn't really have significant performance improvement compare to Flash, even on Mac OS X. I think it still has a long way to go. But it is nice to see someone's exploring the frontier! The blurring effect doesn't seem right though...