LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

Post by 74d-fe6-2c6 » Thu, May 06, 2021, 8:20 AM UTC

throwawaysea wrote: post #25

nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

Agree. I was never that cognizant of what ISIS/ISIL/Daesh were capable of until I saw videos on LiveLeak that made it all very real. You won’t find those anywhere else, but I dare say that the emotions those stir in the viewer create political clarities that are razor sharp, in a way you can’t get through overly academic and stoic news articles.

Post by h0l0cube » Thu, May 06, 2021, 8:23 AM UTC

acituan wrote: post #343

h0l0cube wrote: post #290

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> Epictetus, Greek-born slave Just to clarify: > He spent his youth as a slave in Rome to Epaphroditos, a wealthy freedman and secretary to Nero. > Epictetus obtained his freedom sometime after the death of Nero in AD 68 He was a slave to people of wealth and power, that permitted him to study philosophy, and was freed around 18 years of age. So it would be disingenuous to imply Epictetus had the perspective of an im…

> So it would be disingenuous to imply Epictetus had the perspective of an impoverished slave when he founded his own school of philosophy. Good thing is that I made no such implication. It would be equally disingenuous however to imply that his school of philosophy would be completely isolated from the experience of his formative years as a slave.

Post by 2cb » Thu, May 06, 2021, 8:28 AM UTC

tnzm wrote: post #330

acituan wrote: post #257

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In the case of depression and anxiety, at least in the view of CBT, there is always some sort of cognitive distortion at play. In other words, if the mental anguish originates from having taken a distorted view of the world, it wouldn't tell us anything if the world was an OK place or not to begin with.

The question that bothers me is whether the existence of such distorted views of the world tells us something about the world. After all, they did not arise in isolation - what distorted that person's perception and what's preventing it from correcting itself?

Post by DyslexicAtheist » Thu, May 06, 2021, 8:29 AM UTC

Biganon wrote: post #313

boomboomsubban wrote: post #193

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Not really. Though they often did want a method to spread their videos, the West lacked any of the real context behind such videos turning it into outrage fueled Western propaganda. I expect the videos sparked far more Islamaphobia than radicalization.

Creating or fuelling islamophobia has always been one of ISIS's tactics

Post by thrwaeasddsaf » Thu, May 06, 2021, 8:31 AM UTC

Aeolun wrote: post #275

laoganmaplz wrote: post #152

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Is this to mean "People aren't killing themselves, ergo everything must be pretty good for them generally"? Because, if that's what's meant here, I have to pretty vehemently disagree with that sentiment.

Yes, the premise of what you read is correct, but the conclusion you make seems different. People aren’t killing themselves, so even if their life sucks in many ways they must have found enough good things in the world to balance them out. The original premise somewhere further up was that poor people are never happy. I guess I should have used a less extreme point.