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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by ta_ca »

Kye wrote: post #161
ryandrake wrote: post #38

I happen to think a lot of the pandemic denial and downplaying had to do with the media's refusal (for valid privacy reasons) to show what was actually going on in ICUs everywhere. The lack of graphic coverage kept the pandemic's worst effects out of sight, out of mind for a lot of people, allowing them to focus on and rage against the less important side-issues like how awful masks are and how upset it made them to…

I took covid seriously when a doctor I follow on Twitter shared how bad things were early on.

it was a reddit thread for me. can't find which one but i remember it was something like[0].

[0]https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ez13dv/oc_...

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Post by bserge »

omegaham wrote: post #76
breckenedge wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You consider Reddit usable? I stopped using Reddit a few years ago, recently came back and tried both the website and (dark-pattern driven) mobile app. It's distinctly worse. Everything seems to have been re-engineered to drive "engagement" and/or mindless consumption.

If they ever kill old.reddit.com, I'm outta there. The redesign was awful.

I've no idea who approved that pos. It actually makes it harder to discuss anything on what's supposed to be online forums. That translates to lost revenue, imo. Even Imgur comments are easier.

My latest gripe is that they're breaking the "back" button for no useful reason.

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Post by [deleted] »

_huayra_ wrote: post #200
stonogo wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there is no circular argument. If someone thinks the world is an OK place, either they're speaking from a position of privilege or they are lying. Assuming privilege is in this case the kindest interpretation of their words.

Indeed. It is incredibly telling when people attempt to equilibrate "I'm anxious because I'm not sure if I'll be promoted to senior dev this quarter" to "I'm anxious because I cannot feed my family". As someone who has come from the latter circumstances to the former (through a lot of luck and sweat), I can tell you that having the same roof over my head for long periods of time and not having to carefully budget eve…

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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by neatze »

acituan wrote: post #60
nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

> The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place, with also violence in it. Our cognition is heavily biased towards saliencing and preserving the scary bits, and being exposed to a planet scale showcase of those bits does not necessarily make us wiser (e.g. better decision makers). At least for me personally it took a dec…

World is not ok OR ok OR neutral, word just is at same time morbid and beautiful, and only sure thing is we all going to die in some point in a future, for some unfortunate souls world was made an hell by others humans, events, or genetics.

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Post by culturestate »

bartread wrote: post #260
_carbyau_ wrote: post #209

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Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. Angle grinders are next level, fundamental "respect or you'll be maimed" stuff. Angular momentum is not as fundamentally easy to judge and is easily underestimated.

> Circular saws, mitre saws are sold with protective elements where I live. To respect, but it won't jump out and hurt you. That's true but they're not sufficient to protect against all injuries if you don't take proper precautions. And, as far as circular saws go, you're flat out wrong about them not jumping and hurting you: if they bind up in the wood that's exactly what can happen in the worst case. It's called ki…

SmarterEveryDay prototyped an anti-kickback mechanism for circular saws[1] that I hoped would inspire some mfgs; it's crazy that we haven't seen more safety innovation in handheld power tools 10+ years after SawStop became widely viable.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdW7vhYYSdM

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by Oddskar »

c-c-c-c-c wrote: post #233
imranq wrote: post #216

Why is there so much fetishization of violent content in the comments? Sure maybe liveleak provided some footage you couldn't get on youtube and that is indeed a loss, but to think that the violence you see represents the truth is just as bad as denying that any bad happens in the world. The world is far larger than any one mind can handle. I wouldn't judge it from a few videos taken out of context. The world can be…

What are you on about. Since when can you get shell-shock from watching videos online. Its not fetishization but rather an unabridged edition of the footage you see on the news.

The many stories coming out of content moderation companies would disagree. E.g:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebo...

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Post by ezconnect »

Matticus_Rex wrote: post #107
ezconnect wrote: post #90

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There are a few places in the world with little violence you are lucky to be in that place that you don't have to worry too much about your life everyday.

Compared to what? There are very few places in the world with the kind of violence that has been commonplace for most of world history. Yes, violent things happen everywhere, but most people in most places don't have to worry for their physical safety most of the time. That's a relatively new phenomenon.

You need to go explore the world some more if that is your point of view.

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Post by BeetleB »

_huayra_ wrote: post #200
stonogo wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there is no circular argument. If someone thinks the world is an OK place, either they're speaking from a position of privilege or they are lying. Assuming privilege is in this case the kindest interpretation of their words.

Indeed. It is incredibly telling when people attempt to equilibrate "I'm anxious because I'm not sure if I'll be promoted to senior dev this quarter" to "I'm anxious because I cannot feed my family". As someone who has come from the latter circumstances to the former (through a lot of luck and sweat), I can tell you that having the same roof over my head for long periods of time and not having to carefully budget eve…

> It is incredibly telling when people attempt to equilibrate "I'm anxious because I'm not sure if I'll be promoted to senior dev this quarter" to "I'm anxious because I cannot feed my family".

Like it or not, the reality is that for some people, the anxiety of the latter is much greater than the anxiety some other people experience for the former.

Your experience may be the norm, but it is not all-encompassing, and your life experience doesn't give you the authority to speak on their behalf. While your experience and perspective may be the more common one, you are also dismissing a fair amount of suffering that many have.

There are people not far from me who handled poverty and war fairly well, became doctors, and eventually attempted/committed suicide because of the pressures on the job. One of the survivors even said that poverty and war were much simpler to comprehend than the hostility of his fellow doctors and the environment he worked in.

And no, it wasn't because of his background. Several of his coworkers attempted/committed suicide while coming from privileged backgrounds.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by Markoff »

I dunno why I always thought for some reason LiveLeak is Russian only today discovering it's British?

It's shame what's happening, first they take down WatchPeopleDie (honestly Rotten and Ogrish were way long time ago), now LiveLeak, it's shame you are not allowed to see uncensored content anymore, I used to be regular visitor of WPD also for discussions, one could learn lot of useful stuff what to do in dangerous situations or how to avoid them.

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