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Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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Post by FabianCC »

gregmac wrote: post #119
Ensorceled wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but abusive and predatory behaviour is STILL abusive and predatory in an oversupply situation.

It's clear asking a professional to do this and not being up front about paying $0 is unprofessional and a disrespectful waste of time, but I'm not convinced it's actually predatory or abusive. If someone thinks they'll get more than $their_cost in promotion value, they'll do it. If not, they won't. If no one does, the production company is going to waste a lot of time and burn their reputation trying to avoid what's…

This.

I see the biggest problem with the email conversation that the person asking was not up front with the 0$ payout in the very first paragraph of the email.

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Post by Netcob »

shoto_io wrote: post #5

I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.

Yes, maybe the lucky photographer will be noticed by another large company that is also looking for people who are willing to work for "exposure".

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Post by cerved »

shoto_io wrote: post #5

I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.

I'd say it's more related to the freelance nature of the job.

Also it's a lot more common in industries with high supply combined with relatively "well off" young professionals that do it for "fun" and "exposure" ie creative industries

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Post by anotha1 »

protomyth wrote: post #80
notyourwork wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. Its a "great" way for employers to screen out less privileged folks and keep the job for someone from a "proper" family. Trust fund babies have no problem doing an unpaid internship.

Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs that would be remedied by improving education for the undesirables, but then the desirables wouldn't have as many of the high paying jobs, and their parents don't want to complain about little Johnny mooching when, you know, the poors are way easier to complain about being moochers.

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Post by cerved »

Ansil849 wrote: post #157

> While the series is funded by and will be aired on Netflix, it is unlikely that the streaming behemoth is aware of how the producers of the show are soliciting talent. Kinetic Content is likely solely responsible for how it spends the budget granted by Netflix and the choice to seek unpaid labor from photographers is likely entirely on the production company. This struck me as weirdly being pandering to Neflix. Thi…

negligence isn't the same as malice

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

jf22 wrote: post #30
Ensorceled wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but abusive and predatory behaviour is STILL abusive and predatory in an oversupply situation.

The promotional aspects could be worth much more than whatever money they'd earn.

The better question is why a company with as much cash as Netflix can't afford to pay their photographers.

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Post by D13Fd »

itake wrote: post #77
illumanaughty wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because exploiting people is wrong.

Can you elaborate how this is exploiting? I am a SWE engineer with photography as a hobby. If a tv show contacted me to do a wedding shoot, I'd be excited for the coverage and I wouldn't feel exploited since doing shoots is fun for me. I could see how there are parallels to the "background actor" industry where, by law, you have to pay all of the talent on screen, even if its a nominal amount and the actor would of w…

I totally agree.

I too have a photography hobby (or did, pre-kids). I release everything I do that's any good via Creative Commons attribution-only licenses. My pics have shown up on articles in USA Today, Forbes, Yahoo Finance, and many many other places. Plus they are in a number of free and paid wallpaper apps. People sell prints of them on Amazon. I can go buy a cup with one of my photos on it right now. I was even interviewed for a small Discovery Channel video.

I think it's awesome. As long as they stick my name on there and follow the terms of the license, more power to them.

I've had people (especially in the local photographer's club) tell me that I'm being horrible and helping to kill the professional photography industry etc. But in my view there is just nothing wrong with giving away your creative output in exchange for credit.

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Post by SirSourdough »

slver wrote: post #132

Everyone is free to want things.

I’m sure lots of businesses want to exploit workers, but that doesn’t mean they should be permitted to. The issue here is Netflix/Kinect being able to act on a predatory want.
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