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Re: Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at Dark Patterns workshop

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This logic doesn’t follow. iOS apps that use system controls generally have far better accessibility than web pages do, indeed accessibility is a primary reason for creating a native app.

I only have some anecdotal data on this one, and maybe I'm comparing to apps that are not using system controls. My mother struggles with any ios App because of how the zoom is implemented in the different apps. She can get by with the built in magnifier tool, but only when she already knows the app well. Personally, I recently had nerve damage in my hands, and it was very difficult for me to enter text. There were m…

Yeah - I’m sure that would have been useful for you, but it doesn’t really compare to the wide array of accessibility options that exist across the system.

Also copying a pasting working across all text is often an anti-feature for accessibility too depending on what condition you are working with. For people who have trouble with fine motor control, it’s much easier to have only the content text selectable and not the controls.

There is no one-size fits all accessibility solution.

This seems to be a good argument for an accessibility option to make all text selectable, and nothing to do with dark patterns.

Re: Request for comments regarding topics to be discussed at Dark Patterns workshop

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> It's actually a good idea to ask the user for feedback internally, a lot of low star reviews are bug reports or help requests that wouldn't help anyone But importantly ask the user once, and only once, do not force the user to leave a review. Doing so will lead to more one star reviews along the lines of “wouldn’t stop asking for a review” Also I immediately hate any app asking for a review. It may be useful for th…

That's really about the relationship with the user and timing of the request. The best practice is to ask user for a favour right after something good happens and they get value from your app as they will be glad that this app exists. You first give something to the user and ask the user to give you something back later, like "If you like the app please give us a review, it helps a lot" request. It's not a coincidenc…

> hat's really about the relationship with the user and timing of the request. The best practice is to ask user for a favour right after something good happens and they get value from your app as they will be glad that this app exists.

There’s that user hostility again! Also I’m not sure how the YouTube example is related. When a YouTuber says hit subscribe the user can take a second to do it. They don’t stop what they’re doing and get forwarded to a different website entirely.

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