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20 minutes with my Chromebook

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Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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I think the thing to remember is MacBook Pro: $2000 Chromebook: $500?

But a netbook is $250 on the low end, and a full laptop (low-end, but not horribly slow) is $400. A modern laptop (with an i3) can be had for between $470 and $500. Based on the selection available on Amazon, chromebooks seem to have three price points: $350, $430, and $500. Admittedly, I'm focusing on the fact that chromebooks don't seem to compare well within your price range, while you're focusing on the fact that…

It's a lot better than a netbook, something short of a full laptop like an MBP. The SSD makes a big difference; the main shortcoming of my CR-48 was the poor GPU integration. I think it is priced at bit high, though. The problem of the Chromebooks is that the market for them is being cannibalized by tablet devices, not least the Android ones, several of which are excellent. The Asus Eee pad comes with a rather nifty dock that provides the usual keyboard+hub functionality and has extra battery built in as well.

a more general problem that no reviewer seems to have commented on: netbooks where you browse the internet most of the time derive little from their horizontal aspect ratio, because so many web designers insist on formatting for 800-pixel widths or the like, so that your netbook has 30-40% of the screen devoted to whitespace. A vertical format is considerably more useful for anything except spreadsheet work.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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Beats me how anyone would use a computer where both the OS, browser, and major applications are made by the same company - a company whose living depends on making huge databases about its users' personal data - a company that is based in the US where the authorities have easy access to your data. The privacy implications to using Chromebook are huge, in my opinion.

I hope you are not using an iOS device then... Given Apple's success, few people seem to mind.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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I'm hesitant to complain about a review because it is the author's opinion and they are fully entitled to feel however they want about the product, but if I may make one little yammer... This is the kind of review methodology I dislike: "I’ll give this 3/5 stars. I really believe in the spirit of the laptop. It beats out traditional netbooks like my girlfriend’s EeePC and it is going to be a lot better for typing/vid…

Buy a mini and complain when it can't do a 0-60 in 4 seconds like a F60

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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I'm thinking of getting a Chromebook for my father, and this is a man whose only been online via a library and who has no internet connection at home (or even a TV for that matter).

The things I'm curious about are:

1) How is the 3g? Is it invisibly always connected like a mobile phone is, or is it more like a laptop where you have to connect and disconnect?

2) How is the Camera? And how easy is it to upload a photo to flickr (or Picasa if it's easier) having taking a photo? My father also doesn't have a digital camera, but is selling a camper van... I want him to be able to take a photo using the Chromebook and to be able to figure out how to upload it to somewhere useful... would this be effortless for someone not deeply familiar with computers?

3) How is the battery life? In real usage, of occasionally accessing the internet, opening and closing it, etc... how does it fare? Also... can you buy spare batteries? Especially batteries that are chargeable off a car socket? i.e. Could he charge the battery whilst driving along, and without needing the laptop to all be wired up which he might consider weird.

4) How are the prompts? So it asked for an update... but did it do that in language that even my father would not find confusing or intimidating? Are the alerts and prompts too numerous so as to dumb him down, or are they are few and far between and phrased in such clear English that anyone could really grasp them even without knowing why or how software updates happen?

5) How are the native apps such as Maps? I realise that the Chromebook is designed to be online all the time, but one of his use-cases will be searching for a place, driving to it, and then referring to the previous search to do the last bit of navigation (he's too old school even for sat-nav). So... is there caching for when signal fails? Is it adequate and useful enough to be helpful?

Basically... the Chromebook for me, is going to help get the last few people in my family and network online. In a way that even the iPad hasn't. I cannot tell you the number of times my father has walked into a computer shop intending to get online, and walked out as soon as what he regards as techno-babble starts.

The Chromebook really could be the thing that works for him... he hated the iPad (couldn't grasp modality of being in apps and not in apps, and was frustrated that things he felt should work together - apps - didn't).

So I'd love it if someone who has a Chromebook does a review either watching someone who has virtually never used a computer use one, or who sits there and really is able to consider how a new user might find one.

That or someone here in the know just answer the questions above ;)

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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Beats me how anyone would use a computer where both the OS, browser, and major applications are made by the same company - a company whose living depends on making huge databases about its users' personal data - a company that is based in the US where the authorities have easy access to your data. The privacy implications to using Chromebook are huge, in my opinion.

The first time you start ChromeOS it asks which search engine you would like to use. You are then free to use any web app you want. The OS is open source so you can check for any tracking code. If you don't trust the build that comes with your chromebook, you can install your own chromiumos build on top. You can't do the same with Windows or OSX, you have to trust in Apple and Microsoft that they won't spy on you.

It's hard to get any more transparent than that.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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This review would have been much better if it was "60 minutes with my ChromeBook". He's complaining about 20 second boot time - on the first boot, when it's busy initializing profiles and whatnot. Had he timed the system after restarting, he likely would have measured a boot time around 5-10 seconds. My Cr-48 takes somewhere around five seconds. A rushed, nonchalant review is hardly better than no review.

Actually it's called "20 minutes with my ChromeBook" and I haven't seen anything that suggests a full review. But it was interesting to read through someones first impressions.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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"The packaging was fine. It wasn’t Apple quality, but few companies put the effort into packaging that Apple does." All I needed to read. Really, reviewing a laptop on the box? Talk about judging a book by its cover. As long as it gets there in one piece, isn't the computer itself more important?

The details do matter. I know it's a cheap product so you can skip that but for more expensive products I don't think judging a book by its cover is wrong. If an expensive product can't have a really good cover than I wonder how lazy that company is with what I can't see.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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Beats me how anyone would use a computer where both the OS, browser, and major applications are made by the same company - a company whose living depends on making huge databases about its users' personal data - a company that is based in the US where the authorities have easy access to your data. The privacy implications to using Chromebook are huge, in my opinion.

The first time you start ChromeOS it asks which search engine you would like to use. You are then free to use any web app you want. The OS is open source so you can check for any tracking code. If you don't trust the build that comes with your chromebook, you can install your own chromiumos build on top. You can't do the same with Windows or OSX, you have to trust in Apple and Microsoft that they won't spy on you. It…

You missed the point. You can of course choose the Search Engine but not the browser. Chrome calls home frequently. As Matt Cutts outlined in one of his posts(http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/)

"If you are typing a search or url in the address bar, Google Chrome will talk to the current search service to try to offer useful query/url suggestions."

And since its "only cloud" device, most of the applications you will end-up using are Google products. Mostly because other players aren't yet convinced that all applications should exist in the cloud.

As far as trusting Apple and Microsoft is concerned, I think it is about the business model. Apple and Microsoft make money by selling Products and Software. Google on the other hand makes money by collecting your data. I do not understand why people fail to understand the difference.

Re: 20 minutes with my Chromebook

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I'm hesitant to complain about a review because it is the author's opinion and they are fully entitled to feel however they want about the product, but if I may make one little yammer... This is the kind of review methodology I dislike: "I’ll give this 3/5 stars. I really believe in the spirit of the laptop. It beats out traditional netbooks like my girlfriend’s EeePC and it is going to be a lot better for typing/vid…

"3 out of 5 stars for being nicer than anything else in the price range?"

No he said it was better at two things then the ipad. And traditional netbooks do not comprise "everything else in the price range".

I thought overall this was one of the more balanced and positive chromebook reviews I've seen. Even if it is only a first reaction there were a number of good comments about the nuances of the hardware design.

Whether positive or negative it seems Chromebook reviews often circle back to the following question: why not just run Chrome on a $500 laptop?

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