A CBP contract shows the risks in connecting your vehicle and your smartphone

Post by 1024core » Tue, May 04, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

soco wrote: post #28

1024core wrote: post #20

From the marketing material: iVe currently supports AUDI, BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, FIAT, Ford, GMC, HUMMER, Hyundai/Kia, INFINITI, Jeep, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Maserati, Mercury, Nissan, Pontiac, Ram, Saturn, SEAT, Skoda, SRT, Toyota and Volkswagen Now you know which brands to avoid!

Any one left out of that list? Should I assume if I see one PSA-owned brand (for example), all PSA will be under contract and just not named because the list was too big? I'm just confused...

Post by harikb » Tue, May 04, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

marcod wrote: post #30

wolverine876 wrote: post #24

Is there a reliable list of cars that do not surveil me, or that can be modified to not surveil me? I read a Bruce Schneier article a little while ago (maybe the article was much older) where he said that he looked, but didn't find one that met his other needs.

https://ondatashop.com/ive-vehicle-system-forensics/ says "iVe currently supports BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Ford, GMC Hummer, Jeep, Lincoln, Maserati, Mercury, Pontiac, Ram, Saturn, Seat, Skoda, SRT, Toyota and Volkswagen vehicles generally as far back as 2008 models" - so older might be better :)

Post by salawat » Tue, May 04, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #4

Is there any surprising data? I'm not surprised it records destinations entered into satnav for example. I mean that's a fairly common trick in TV shows. > MSAB claims that this data can include “Recent destinations, favorite locations, call logs, contact lists, SMS messages, emails, pictures, videos, social media feeds, and the navigation history of everywhere the vehicle has been.” MSAB even touts the ability to re…

Post by Forbo » Tue, May 04, 2021, 6:04 PM UTC

pgrote wrote: post #13

grecy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think about how much the iPhone improved over 9 years of sales from the original in 2007 to whatever model they had in 2016. Given how many manufacturers are jumping on the electric bandwagon, the extremely fast decline in the cost of batteries, the rate of progress to date AND these kinds of laws to give some good motivation, I think it's very safe to say the electric vehicles on sale 9 years from now (2030) will be…

>on sale 9 years from now (2030) will be vastly superior to today's offerings I hope you are right. Discounting the environmental and societal impact of mining the materials needed for these advancements and the electrical generation, my concern is selfish. We drive for vacations and sometimes push 12 hours a day. A quick fill up of gas in the minivan seems better than an hour or two of charging. Others have mentione…

Post by pdkl95 » Tue, May 04, 2021, 6:06 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #14

“Your phone died, you’re gonna get in the car, plug it in, and there’s going to be this nice convenient USB port for you. When you plug it into this USB port, it’s going to charge your phone, absolutely. And as soon as it powers up, it’s going to start sucking all your data down into the car.” That used to be just something seen in hostile devices. Now it's standard equipment.