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Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by dagw »

TekMol wrote: post #15
cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

Honest question: Why marry in the first place? Why practice a personal relationship in a way others have designed? Isn't it somewhat contrary to the theme of Hacker News? To me, the term "hacking" describes the habit of doing things in a more interesting/efficient/fun way than how they are usually done.

Why marry in the first place?

From a practical point of view, once kids where involved and we started looking at things like inheritance, it turns out that many things would be much quicker and easier, legally, if we where married if one of us got very sick or died (in our particular jurisdiction).

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by magicalhippo »

adrianN wrote: post #24
TekMol wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Why marry in the first place? Why practice a personal relationship in a way others have designed? Isn't it somewhat contrary to the theme of Hacker News? To me, the term "hacking" describes the habit of doing things in a more interesting/efficient/fun way than how they are usually done.

Being married has a bunch of tax benefits where I live.

Here it can also help the partner in case of inheritance.

For example, if you haven't lived together for over 3 years and aren't married, then unless there's a will the partner won't inherit anything. If you have a kid, the kid will get most of the inheritance but can't manage the money until they're 18.

Been a few cases in the media here where the kid inherits lots of money on a locked account while the partner that's left struggles to make ends meet.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by djdjdjdjdj »

toxik wrote: post #27
TekMol wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: Why marry in the first place? Why practice a personal relationship in a way others have designed? Isn't it somewhat contrary to the theme of Hacker News? To me, the term "hacking" describes the habit of doing things in a more interesting/efficient/fun way than how they are usually done.

I considered marriage and we even filed half the paperwork, but I decided against it because it would end up in the public records that I am married, and to whom exactly. So, I didn't marry out of infosec concerns.

You are not kidding?

While I personally would find this very weird, from an infosec perspective, having a relatable backstory should make it easier for you in regards of infosec.

With married status you can conceal things probably better than not.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

If my SO does not find other rocks far more interesting or insists on a wedding ring, then we are not on the same page.

Diamonds are carbon atoms arranged in the most boring fashion, they are almost meteorite poop, and real ones are covered in blood.

There's beauty in imperfection and quirky rocks, they are sort of like a metaphore for life.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by Nursie »

MattGaiser wrote: post #4

I think this is a lot less significant than it seems at first glance: > Although diamonds have traditionally only been a very small share of the 100 million pieces Pandora sells worldwide each year, Mr Lacik believes that will be boosted by lower prices.

I think it's significant in that diamonds may now make up a lot more of the lower end of the market. This has the possibility to change their image from one of remote inaccessibility to one of availability to the masses.

What the eventual fallout will be, who knows.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by dotancohen »

enriquto wrote: post #20
cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

If you are on the same page as your partner, you'll have no trouble sorting this thing out. In my case I bought a joke ring that cost me about 2$ in a toy store. If you are not on the same page as your partner, you have more important concerns than a stupid ring of metal.

There are many considerations and compromises to be made when finding a partner. Compromising on her stance regarding blood diamonds might be necessary when finding a partner who shares your other values.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by FpUser »

TekMol wrote: post #15
cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

Honest question: Why marry in the first place? Why practice a personal relationship in a way others have designed? Isn't it somewhat contrary to the theme of Hacker News? To me, the term "hacking" describes the habit of doing things in a more interesting/efficient/fun way than how they are usually done.

>"To me, the term "hacking" describes the habit of doing things in a more interesting/efficient/fun way than how they are usually done."

I was with computers and sometime electronics for like 40 years already. That alone supplies me with enough "interesting ways". I do not have to have every other aspect of my life to be "interesting". I do not sleep on a stool either.

There are also many convenient practical aspects of registering marriage that are mentioned in other replies.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by sharken »

lewisflude wrote: post #10
cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

Not married, but engaged! I ended up buying a diamond on James Allen (they allow you to select earth created or lab created). They allege their mined diamonds are "conflict free" https://www.jamesallen.com/education/diamonds/grading-confli... . However, my feeling is I don't trust this 100%, and for my SO having a "real diamond" meant a lot. For me, in this case, the need to get a "real diamond" for my SO trumped my…

As long as the concept "real diamond", as in mined the traditional way exists, then real change will be slow.

It will be interesting to see if companies will try to market "real diamonds" and how the market will respond.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

mhroth wrote: post #7
cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

Ask your partner what they want. Then do that. Your opinion on this matter is not particularly important ;)

Your opinion on this matter is not particularly important ;)

Although you should bear in mind there is a correlation between the amount spent on getting married and the likelihood of divorce.

Re: Pandora says laboratory-made diamonds are forever

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Post by neilwilson »

cyberpunk wrote: post #3

Married members of HN, what did you do if you think diamonds are utterly ridiclious however due to societal constraints some kind of ring is required for your SO?

Always remember the whole diamond ring thing was a marketing putsh by DeBeers in the first place.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/ho...

So arguably buying a diamond ring has always been a symbol of wage oppression and terrible mining conditions in Africa, and any right thinking person should boycott it.

Fortunately my SO isn't that struck by sparkly rocks. She prefers antique jewellery with character and history. Her wedding ring is 150 years old.

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