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What's Salesforce? (2019)

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Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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Salesforce is a full business app development platform with almost unmatched flexibility, fully hosted and programmable. CRM doesn’t really begin to cover it. This reads like I’m a zealot. I’m not. But there is nothing that I’ve seen that can do what it can do and, if you know how it works, you can leverage it for incredible time and efficiency savings for developing and deploying business apps.

Similar things said of Drupal.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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> Everytime I've been hired into an executive role How many times are we talking about here, like 2 or 20? And why did you end up leaving those roles?

2 times. First I left because of a disagreement on strategy after 2 years. The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

OK, I think this gives a pretty big grain of salt to your original comment.

Also, you can see the humor of a company’s executive saying this right?

> The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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This is classic new-hire behavior. Come in, shake things up by changing a big system to put their stamp on things, (no telling if productivity would’ve gone up if nothing had happened, e.g. company was already growing), then bounce to the next executive gig before the honeymoon wears off.

Do you you know why we say, that one should never "assume" ?

Check out this reply to my other comment asking for their background as an executive.

> [I’ve been an executive] 2 times. First I left because of a disagreement on strategy after 2 years. The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

I’ve looked like an ass before, but I think I did OK w/ my original comment.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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I heard moving into a new home and then immediately burning it down to camp in the back yard is great for the maximizing your Daily Steps KPI also. This conversation of "what I did":"what the outcome was":"what the goal was":"what the organization needs to win" seems a bit imprecise.

In my case, the upstream ERP was there for historical reasons and literally wasn’t used beyond a few reports. The old system wasn’t modified with the business as it grew. We obviously didn’t stay with excel :)

And hey if you did you were just early on inventing airtable :)

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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I agree, it’s their business priorities which result in engineering that leads to bad software. What I’m saying is you can choose to not buy into one of those uber-programmable enterprise platforms and instead (let someone) build fast and user friendly specific software just for your needs. All of the customization and dynamic crap can go out of the window that way, which will allow engineers to make things fast and…

>What I’m saying is you can choose to not buy into one of those uber-programmable enterprise platforms and instead (let someone) build fast and user friendly specific software just for your needs. the problem is not everyone can afford a IT dept with software programmers that can build out custom software. If IT is not their core most companies seek out software that is already out there with somewhat decent reputati…

I have personally seen two 30+ million projects trashed. Not including the wasted man hours spent internal employees to support the consultants. IT projects have an incredible failure rate.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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2 times. First I left because of a disagreement on strategy after 2 years. The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

OK, I think this gives a pretty big grain of salt to your original comment. Also, you can see the humor of a company’s executive saying this right? > The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

If you dont understand the structure of danish corporations, then sure, I see how it could be seen as funny.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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OK, I think this gives a pretty big grain of salt to your original comment. Also, you can see the humor of a company’s executive saying this right? > The second I left because of mismanagement at the highest levels.

If you dont understand the structure of danish corporations, then sure, I see how it could be seen as funny.

Feel free to explain it, because you’re clearly posting on a site with a mostly American audience. So the way you’ve portrayed yourself as an executive shaking things up and canceling SalesForce contracts is getting less and less accurate with each comment that follows.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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Honestly most businesses think they need a lot of customization because they think they're oh-so-special, but in fact something like 1) would work great for them. I know, I've worked in consulting and built software for companies who would have been better off with an off-the-shelf solution.

Unless there is a product designed for the specific needs of their industry, then the 80% of their needs covered by a generic system still means 20% of their needs are in fact oh-so-special

I once worked on a CMS designed specifically for the print industry by a company that was itself a separate arm of a printing company - and even then we had to have an entire system to write custom estimating engines in Python, because without modelling the exact configuration of machines and processes used in each print shop you couldn't produce a useful estimate for how much jobs would cost.

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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This is a good article and history is Salesforce. Another shorter developer focused perspective: Salesforce is a relational database editor. You can create tables, columns, and relationships, app in a nice UI without writing code. You get automatic views and edit forms for records in the tables. And the whole thing is built on a platform where you can write custom sandboxed code to manipulate those records, or expose…

It always puts me in mind of Lotus Notes, another "no-code" system which users locked themselves into.

God that was a horrible piece of software, and a terrible email client.

http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/lotus.htm

Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)

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It always puts me in mind of Lotus Notes, another "no-code" system which users locked themselves into.

God that was a horrible piece of software, and a terrible email client. http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/lotus.htm

I got my start doing Lotus/Domino development and it was a surprisingly powerful system. We developed all kinds of internal workflow and document management tools that ran basically the entire company. The document store 'database' model it used reminds me very of the NoSQL movement that came over a decade later. One pretty amazing thing at the time (mid-late 90s) was that you also got usable web interface to all your tools almost 'for free' (which is what half the people used). When combined with Lotus 123 it would spit out very nice reports and graphs with only a few lines of code. In many ways it was way ahead of its time and it took years for most other tools to catch up.

One thing we never used Lotus for though was mail, calendar or contacts.

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