The AI generated paragraph made no sense to me and did not sound like the first. AI is like a narccisist, every other day people say it's useless and then the next it's the savior of the world.
The computers are getting better at writing
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Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#72I've actually used tools like copy.ai and converstion.ai for a couple of copywriting projects and found them to be very useful.
Of course the output isn't perfect, human intervention is required, but it is way better than doing the writing myself from scratch.
I think going forward we are going to see a lot of human + AI writing projects instead of purely human or purely AI.
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a fellow non-native who accepted not to strive for full assimilation, my suggestion is to do the same. You can refine your writing by reading a lot. Books like “The elements of style” and “On writing well” can help with grasping those structural elements you might be struggling to identify. Apart from that, our brain has been shaped by our native language, and we can’t really delete that. Which is great news! It m…
> It means we can express concepts in English with structures and flows that, if grammatically correct, have the advantage of sounding original, different, sometimes exotic. Yeah, that happens all the time. It always strikes me as unfair when someone comes out with an ostensibly perfect sentence and the result is "well, you didn't make any mistakes; all the words mean what you want them to mean and all the grammar is…
It's useful to learn how they say it, though. Not because we should pretend to be native speakers when we aren't, but because language is more efficient if you know the expected way to use it.
The correct but awkward sentences from non-natives (I also use them, being a non-native English speaker) will more easily get lost in situations with background noise, several people talking, people not paying a lot of attention, etc. because not saying things they way people expect and are used to implies extra effort to understand.
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which is a surprisingly deep statement People used to say the same thing about Markov chains, and then the hype died down it took 20 years for another hypetrain to pull into the station. The same will happen with GPT-n. > says very uncomfortable things about the skill of humans in recognizing genuine creative significance. Indeed. People see pictures in clouds and omnipotent beings in the stars. Humans are uncomfor…
What applications are Markov chains used in now?
Crypto currencies and decentralized protocols like the libp2p (used in IPFS) like Markov chains iirc
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#75Is it just me, or is the "continuation" grammatical but completely nonsensical? It talks about infants being thrown into dust bins and calling them animals - not in an intentional way. It talks about trying to crawl away from the blood on his belly. It talks about bugs being ill. It just doesn't actually make sense.
I'm not sure it makes much less sense than Kafka, which starts with the hero waking up as a cockroach.
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#76I've actually used tools like copy.ai and converstion.ai for a couple of copywriting projects and found them to be very useful. Of course the output isn't perfect, human intervention is required, but it is way better than doing the writing myself from scratch. I think going forward we are going to see a lot of human + AI writing projects instead of purely human or purely AI.
* you mean https://www.conversation.ai/ ?
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#77Rewinding a bit from computers doing all the writing, are you using any tools that help you write considerably better (not just spelling/punctuation checking)? As a non-native English speaker I would like to have a tool that points out my nonstandard usages of language. I think it could be something as simple as parsing the text and searching it against a corpus, but I have no idea how many "unique structures" a text…
I am using LanguageTool. Not the website, but a command-line tool. You can configure it with all sorts of rules to check all sorts of spelling, grammar, style, and language issues. However, as far as I have noticed, LanguageTool is not a very advanced language-help tool. Still, it did improve my writing a lot. If nothing else, my writing has gotten more consistent.
The cli from here? https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#78Rewinding a bit from computers doing all the writing, are you using any tools that help you write considerably better (not just spelling/punctuation checking)? As a non-native English speaker I would like to have a tool that points out my nonstandard usages of language. I think it could be something as simple as parsing the text and searching it against a corpus, but I have no idea how many "unique structures" a text…
As a fellow non-native who accepted not to strive for full assimilation, my suggestion is to do the same. You can refine your writing by reading a lot. Books like “The elements of style” and “On writing well” can help with grasping those structural elements you might be struggling to identify. Apart from that, our brain has been shaped by our native language, and we can’t really delete that. Which is great news! It m…
I wanted to write a message to a Swedish relative to say "Happy Birthday" but the literal translation felt wrong.
I asked my wife how to say "Happy Birthday" and she said "What you've got there is the right translation but that's not what people say".
I think that's one of the hardest things about learning another language is to not directly map words but understand what would be said in a certain context.
There is no English word for Hygge or Fika because the concept simply does not exist. You can find a nearest match but it lacks the meaning.
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#79This is something I've been deep into recently. Just a couple of days ago I published a short paperback story (grimtalesbook.com) written and illustrated by AI - GPT-3 for the writing in this case.
I liked the analogy aimor made in this thread between the level readiness of autonomous driving and autonomous writing. From my experience that feels right, we're not at L5 yet - you can't just let the AI write continuously because you'll just end up with junk wrapped around some nuggets of gold.
In the future if we get to 'L5' writing, your child will have the ability to say 'OK Google, tell me a story about my adventures as a dragon slayer' and Google will respond happily with a perfect bedtime story. And the next day, you'll get a physical copy of that story in the mail. Luckily, that future isn't here yet.
The way Grim Tales was written with GPT-3 was by using some human intervention to keep the AI on track to write a cohesive narrative with a plot and dialogue. A couple of rules like removing anything that doesn't progress the narrative, and keeping the narrator in first person meant that the story was far more readable and didn't meander around like common examples.
Right now - for professional writers - AI is probably good enough as a co-pilot used to create alternate scenes at points in the narrative, or as a tool to help with writers' block.
Re: The computers are getting better at writing
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> which is a surprisingly deep statement People used to say the same thing about Markov chains, and then the hype died down it took 20 years for another hypetrain to pull into the station. The same will happen with GPT-n. > says very uncomfortable things about the skill of humans in recognizing genuine creative significance. Indeed. People see pictures in clouds and omnipotent beings in the stars. Humans are uncomfor…
What applications are Markov chains used in now?
Sequence analysis in Bioinformatics, for example to align sequences and detect homology and as in HMMER: http://hmmer.org/