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Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#121

I bought a diet-aid box with a timer called "Kitchen Safe". Just dump my phone in it whenever I have the will power, set a timer for a few hours, and turn a moment of motivation into hours of phone-free bliss. The box is designed to shatter if you hit it, so there's no need to worry about losing access in a real emergency but the replacement cost is high enough to not do that everytime reddit beckons.

This ++ ... designed for "cookies" but great for most addictions!

https://www.thekitchensafe.com/

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#122
I don't have problems with phones but I have problems with computers - I was usually ended up with HN and YouTube when I tried to learning/writing/programming for side projects.

Then I recall I read from somewhere that Donald Knuth prefers pen and paper to computer. I tried it and it did work for me. I just turn off the computer and use pen and paper/book/printed stuff most of the time. When I have to use the computer I leave the network cable unplugged and finish it quick; When I have to use the internet, I write down what I going to do and do it then turn off the computer; I only check HN or YouTube on meal breaks or before sleep.

I found programming with pen and paper is surprisingly effective, and arguably makes the system better designed. Reading printed code and take notes in diagrams like half a century ago make me understand better (I don't actually print everything, just collect those parts I find important to an editor then print). Turn-on computer on demand feels like going back to the lab from the dorm when the idea struck. All are slower but make steady progress, and it's enjoyable. Much better than time wasted in vain.

As in hindsight, I don't think I'm addicted because I don't have withdrawal symptoms - I don't get uncomfortable when I'm not using a computer or the Internet. It's just those websites are good at grasping my attention. If that's your case, just turn it off or lock your phone away and only get it when you need your online bank. But if you do have withdrawal symptoms, you probably need to ask professionals to address them.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#123
About once a month, I abstain from all electronics (phone, tv, computer, consoles) as well as food for an entire day. This helps me guage what my addiction levels are at, and although it's not typically a pleasant experience, I always feel significantly better the next day - everything just seems better and easier to deal with. For some reason it's easier to abstain completely for a day than it is to only partially limit myself.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#124
If any app makes you feel bad, delete it and remove the stored credentials from your account. It worked really well for me.

Make your phone less useful. I don't have my work e-mail & Slack on my phone. So I can't even check my work calendar on it.

I used to have a few of the social networks apps and lots of utility apps that maybe I would use once a year. So I decided to delete them all.

Now, I only have some of the default Apple apps + WhatsApp, Telegram, Bank, Spotify, Lockwise, Scanner Pro, Google Authenticator, Google Map, and a few utility apps to manage cameras, smart LEDs, and my vacuum robot.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#125
OCD is going to find another outlet for you. For me, it transitions from AIDS to Rabies and then it'll find its way back to AIDS again, or maybe covid ... among many other issues.

You need to go after the OCD head-on, rather than the symptoms. My counselor recommended Brain Lock for me. I need to read it again, myself; but, I believe it to be a useful book and always recommend it.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

S/he is telling addicts to tell themselves to stop.

Indeed, and that's like the one thing addicts usually cannot do, almost by definition. At least that's how it is for me.

The person is claiming to have obsessive compulsive disorder, which can operate a bit different from regular addiction.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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My time to shine! I spent 2 - 3 years going back and forth between dumb phones and smartphones with various different measures for the same reasons. Here is my video with my final summations on the topic and how some techniques I’ve found may help you (iOS specific): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-TKgRxdA5o Feel free to follow me on Twitter too and chat about any questions you have. I’ve been playing around with t…

One of the most insightful things I found was actually that simply feeling that phone use is bad makes it feel bad and puts you in a bad loop of “I’m so terrible I can’t stop checking my phone etc”. Also when I’m stressed with work, I focus and fixate on how much screen time I have. I would hazard a guess that you have more emotional / other issues that would benefit you to address. For me it was stress with work and…

This comment is on point!

You have to be nicer/kinded to yourself. Life is hard/stressful enough as is.

When you start feeling bad about yourself, as GP said, "I'm so terrible I can't stop checking my phone", you take away hope and you start living only in the "now". "I'm so terrible" is a gross overgeneralization that puts your mood and increases your need to feel good via the addictive behaviors. Compare that to thinking: "I know I'm having a hard time stopping checking my phone, but maybe today I can do a little less of it."

The thing that keeps addiction going is hopelessness.

Treating addiction as disease (like AA does) is simply WRONG. It is actively harmful to recovery. It renders you hopeless ("I have no control over my disease").

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#130
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

S/he is telling addicts to tell themselves to stop.

Indeed, and that's like the one thing addicts usually cannot do, almost by definition. At least that's how it is for me.

That's because this "cannot do" definition of an addict is incorrect/harmful. This is the disease theory of addiction (addicts can't help themselves) and has been proven wrong/harmful in recent psychology.
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