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Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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Any technical advice about how to block yourself is beating around the bush IMO. Not only is it easy to bypass most of that stuff, but you'll be way better off learning how to deal with this psychological issue directly instead of trying to avoid triggering it. Edit: They are not mutually exclusive by any means, I just mean that you will benefit in the long-run by addressing the psychological problem that leads to th…

I managed to get rid of multiple unhealthy online habits like excessive reddit browsing using very simple network blocks. They help a lot even though I am able to trivially circumvent them.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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I use block lists on PiHole when I'm at home. I can't cheat with cell data because I have a limited data plan. Works OK. It's only a tool though. If there are deeper issues driving your phone addiction, you can use something like PiHole to give you a fighting chance and then seek out a therapist for help.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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post #60

Any technical advice about how to block yourself is beating around the bush IMO. Not only is it easy to bypass most of that stuff, but you'll be way better off learning how to deal with this psychological issue directly instead of trying to avoid triggering it. Edit: They are not mutually exclusive by any means, I just mean that you will benefit in the long-run by addressing the psychological problem that leads to th…

One of the steps for overcoming alcoholism is getting the alcohol out of your house. Phone addiction is the same way, it definitely takes hard work and discipline on the part of the user, but there needs to be a way to get rid of your phone or at least the functionality that makes it addictive, without losing essential utility like keeping in contact with people, or in OP's case a mobile-only bank account

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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Everyone is offering tricks or hacks to help, is simply stopping an option? I wasn't able to quit smoking until I really decided I wanted to quit and did it cold turkey. Same with both Facebook and reddit. I was blowing hours of my day on reddit. Then I decided I didn't like that for myself and quit cold turkey. It really really sucked at first, but I feel like until you really want to quit, no amount of hacks or tri…

Telling addicts to "simply stop", I believe we (as a society) have already tried that. It doesn't work.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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You should find a different bank. Being forced to use a particular platform to access your money is absolutely unreasonable and unacceptable. All three US banks[1] I've used don't do this.

Also, as someone prone to this sort of thing it helps to have constructive hobbies that are a bit "mindless." Lego kits are awesome (also great for "lockdown dates.") If you're ok doing them by yourself (because other people are very likely to get bored) Amazon is full of weird raspberry pi/arduino robot kits that take days of work to put together and I can totally recommend that for getting yourself out of a slump (whats best is doing it while in a medium sized discord call, you get to be around people and have some social stimulation while also doing something with your hands.) Surprisingly I've found Factorio can even help get me out of the slump but you should be careful with it since some people report the opposite affect.

[1] Essex, Suntrust, and USAA "FSB."

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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I am inclined to agree with the others than a technological solution is not likely what you need. The trick is to segregate these areas mentally, so that you are acutely aware of when you are "on forbidden ground". The "rubber band" trick has been mentioned here already, and it's based on helping to re-enforce that awareness. Technological solutions can help do this. Timer apps that give you a regular notice to "GTFO THE PHONE FOR 15 MIN NOW" for example, are building the same kind of awareness, just as a software tool to do so.

In my case these bad habits predate the iPhone's existence. What we call phone addiction now was the "Internet addiction" of 15 years ago. Some strategies that have helped me, I think:

One: The phone never comes to bed with me. It never comes out in real-life social interactions either.

Two: During the day I keep it physically separate from me if possible. In my drawer at work. Just on the table on the other side of the room here at home right now. Checking it requires physically standing up and walking over. More likely this will percolate up into conscious awareness.

Following from that, stand when you're on the phone. Don't sit down and slump and relax.

Three: Purge all the dopamine-ticklers. In my case, if you'll excuse the bluntness, that means: No Twitter or other clickbait feeds. No outrage-driven news. No porn. No hookup apps. No endless-browsing online shopping.

Hell, even Hacker News warrants some caution. You're just such a rewarding bunch.

And this is not just on the phone. In all of my life. As a general mental cordon sanitaire. I cross into the quarantined zone often, I must admit, but the key is to be aware, to have a niggling sense of unease, when you're in the danger zone. Check your dosimeter regularly and have a planned exit.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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> due to having a “mobile only” bank account I have to have access to my iPhone.

If using your iPhone is a problem for you (and it seems it is), having an account that requires it is a negative. Drop that account and use an account that works with you.

Try keeping track of transactions and balances in a paper register, and reduce checking the online account or phone banking to once a week. In the old days, people would reconcile their account with a paper statement once a month, and that was usually good enough.

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