Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by Teever » Mon, May 03, 2021, 5:33 AM UTC

Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry
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Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by 908B64B197 » Tue, May 04, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

Remember the C-Series plane?

Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount.

Engineering shipped to France and manufacturing to Alabama.

And now Canadians expects a big investment in semi-conductor for highly experimental fabs?

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by belval » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:10 AM UTC

908B64B197 wrote: post #2

Remember the C-Series plane? Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount. Engineering s…

Canada is basically just an economic extension to the US. I find it funny when people talk about us developing our own industry for X. We don't do that. Our approach is to be a pool of specialized and culturally similar people for the US to use as cheaper labor (when the loonie is low).

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by steve_adams_86 » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:17 AM UTC

belval wrote: post #3

908B64B197 wrote: post #2

Remember the C-Series plane? Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount. Engineering s…

Canada is basically just an economic extension to the US. I find it funny when people talk about us developing our own industry for X. We don't do that. Our approach is to be a pool of specialized and culturally similar people for the US to use as cheaper labor (when the loonie is low).

You’re not wrong, but this actually illustrates why we need to establish industry to counteract this problem. What you’re describing will always be true if we don’t have the initiative to correct it.

This stuff seriously concerns me because apart from natural resources, we have very little to leverage. I worry for my kids and their kids. Canada is in a very precarious economic and political position from my perspective.

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by Pxtl » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:25 AM UTC

So the FP is taking a break from partisan hackery to do a puff-piece to drum up some investment?

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by rhodozelia » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:27 AM UTC

belval wrote: post #3

908B64B197 wrote: post #2

Remember the C-Series plane? Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount. Engineering s…

Canada is basically just an economic extension to the US. I find it funny when people talk about us developing our own industry for X. We don't do that. Our approach is to be a pool of specialized and culturally similar people for the US to use as cheaper labor (when the loonie is low).

Canada used to count Avro and Bombardier in their aerospace industry. We used to have Nortel and blackberry as leaders in telecommunications. We can have our own industry for X and we can be competitive world leaders in it.

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by iamshs » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:28 AM UTC

908B64B197 wrote: post #2

Remember the C-Series plane? Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount. Engineering s…

So much of Canadian tax payer money has been poured into Bombardier. What could Trudeau do when Boeing had won the case in a US court against Bombardier, which allowed Airbus to swoop in?

Re: Making the case for a homegrown Canadian semiconductor industry

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Post by 908B64B197 » Tue, May 04, 2021, 4:30 AM UTC

iamshs wrote: post #7

908B64B197 wrote: post #2

Remember the C-Series plane? Trudeau did absolutely nothing for the industry and immediately bowed down to Trump after he slapped tariffs later judged to be illegal. Well, not exactly, there was whining and a vague threat to switch an order of fighter jets from Boeing to Lockheed. Couldn't inject a little bit of capital at the right time. Airbus swooped in and bought the whole thing at a heavy discount. Engineering s…

So much of Canadian tax payer money has been poured into Bombardier. What could Trudeau do when Boeing had won the case in a US court against Bombardier, which allowed Airbus to swoop in?