This is a good article and history is Salesforce. Another shorter developer focused perspective: Salesforce is a relational database editor. You can create tables, columns, and relationships, app in a nice UI without writing code. You get automatic views and edit forms for records in the tables. And the whole thing is built on a platform where you can write custom sandboxed code to manipulate those records, or expose…
What's Salesforce? (2019)
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Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're right and I think people have tried but nobody has made a killer product yet. Everyone is either trying to copy Salesforce or too niche.
in my experience, every vendor we looked at who competes with salesforce is not interested in your business unless they are allowed to take over your entire backoffice. for example, we only wanted it for the CRM and order ingestion via manual entry & API, and that was okay, while other vendors insisted on also taking over our inventory management, invoicing, fulfillment, etc, rather than allowing us to simply integra…
Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)
#23This is a good article and history is Salesforce. Another shorter developer focused perspective: Salesforce is a relational database editor. You can create tables, columns, and relationships, app in a nice UI without writing code. You get automatic views and edit forms for records in the tables. And the whole thing is built on a platform where you can write custom sandboxed code to manipulate those records, or expose…
Sounds like it could be disrupted by focusing on a subset of the market and growing up into something without the baggage? A calcified org like that can't move fast.
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#24I'm just waiting for Salesforce to be disrupted. It has become so large and all encompassing that it is hard to get into for the lower end. Seems like a ripe area for a low end competitor but I haven't seen anything great yet.
Not because it’s hard to make a better product, many already exist. But because it’s engrained into the DNA that makes up an enterprise. At some point you just buy Salesforce. Not because you need it, or even because you want it. It just manifests itself. You don’t get fired for buying Salesforce.
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#25It’s “SaaS” which was an upgrade on what they replaced initially, but seems like they’re increasingly the ones bound to be “disrupted.”
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#26Now, I know all tech companies buy other companies. That's not new. But most tech companies also have some capabilities to innovate and building new stuff. That's an important difference. Buying a small tech company to accelerate development of a particular product is different than buying a company like Slack which already dominates the market and can be integrated into the eco system and then transition to mostly maintenance.
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#27I understand the appeal of Salesforce, though in my experience it is just as clunky and slow as the software it replaced. I'm sure there are configurations that are not that way, but it's a horrible part of my day to day experience using it as a customer support module. Comments take 4 seconds to add. Opening a case in a new tab is 30 seconds or more. Comments and feeds load progressively, slowly, making it nearly im…
Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)
#28This is a good article and history is Salesforce. Another shorter developer focused perspective: Salesforce is a relational database editor. You can create tables, columns, and relationships, app in a nice UI without writing code. You get automatic views and edit forms for records in the tables. And the whole thing is built on a platform where you can write custom sandboxed code to manipulate those records, or expose…
Re: What's Salesforce? (2019)
#29I'm just waiting for Salesforce to be disrupted. It has become so large and all encompassing that it is hard to get into for the lower end. Seems like a ripe area for a low end competitor but I haven't seen anything great yet.
- Salesforce is slow, expensive after adding add-ons, costly to customize, and visually unappealing. The older and less tech-friendly workers I've surveyed found it painful to use. The same might be said of many Salesforce competitors, including MSFT Dynamics and Netsuite. SugarCRM also has many of the same failings, but its UI/UX is better IMHO.
- Close.io, Pipedrive, Salesloft, Nethunt, Nutshell, Nimble and few others have a simpler and more engaging take on CRM that seems to be easier for a wider variety of users to adopt.
- A big chunk of CRM's perceived value is better found through sales training that focuses on qualifying customers and good work habits.
- CRM cannot turn most under or non-performing salespeople into performers.
- Many performing workers will resist adding contacts and data to a CRM for several reasons, self-preservation instinct being most prominent.
- Nurture marketing, once a CRM innovation, has become an annoyance for client/customer prospects... particularly over email.
- Predictive CRM requires either a lot of data to train, or hard to obtain signals. The concept underachieves.
The next great thing may very well be inversion of CRM, whereby your customers/clients automate the acquisition, evaluation, negotiation and purchase of products or services. At the enterprise level this exists for commodity products & services, but it's largely non-existent at the SMB/SOHO level. The normalization and quantification problem is significant, but I'm confident ML will address some of these challenges in due time.
Tl;dr ... there's still no substitute for hiring the right people. Charisma, emotional intelligence & motivation always surpasses sales automation.
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#30Salesforce is amazing, in the sense that it truly lives up to its name. Everytime I've been hired into an executive role I've cancelled our Salesforce subscription and productivity has gone up. Its clunky, slow and overly complex if you ask me. But their success cannot be denied, thus they must have an amazing salesforce.
... Great observation. But what did you replace it with?