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Re: Type 2 diabetes cure, extreme diet

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Not to discredit (haven't had a chance to watch yet), but is there scientific evidence behind this?

> is there scientific evidence behind this? Doc here. Yes. Literally acres of it (measuring the floor space occupied by the National Library of Medicine). Eat real food, not to much, mostly plants. Two entrees at most US restaurants will feed a family of 4, with leftovers.

I take it you highly approve of the Eater's Manifesto :)

(still need to read it)

Re: Type 2 diabetes cure, extreme diet

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There is a significant cultural difference in the matter of treating diseases between West and East. In the West people first use a drug (rather tons of them), then, if no progress was made, a medical assistance, then, changes in behavior as an inevitable consequence and a restricted diet as a last resort. In the East (Tibet, for example) people at fist use shifting to an appropriate diet and behavioral changes, then…

I wonder if that is a direct result of a more profit driven system in the west? There's no profit in good exercise and diet...

Of course there is. Good high quality healthy food costs way more than deep fried potatoes and low quality burger meat, and is out of price range of a good portion of Americans.

Re: Type 2 diabetes cure, extreme diet

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I suspect the word cure is used capriciously here. Remission would probably be a better term. I know this study made a splash on Drudge the other day, but the response over on diabetesforums.com was much more measured: http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/scientific-studies/60390...

Right, well the whole point to a "cure" is to not have to make lifestyle adjustments. Anyone who's looking to be rid of their diabetes without having to adjust their lifestyle is going to be disappointed by this research and it's conclusions. In fact, I imagine that some sufferers will be outright livid once they realize the full implications of the research results.

Basically, we're getting more conclusive research showing that type 2 diabetes (runs in my family) is a lifestyle disease. In other words: if you are diagnosed with type 2, it's your own fault.

Specifically, insulin resistance is caused by higher-than-normal levels of fat in the liver and pancreas. Belly fat doesn't matter much. Arm fat doesn't matter much. It's the fat in your organs that's gumming up the works. People are more or less prone to developing fatty organs, so diabetes rates vary between genetic/family backgrounds.

To me, this is all fantastic news. I imagine that many of us are prepared to make a few comfort sacrifices in order to avoid these types of diseases. There is still a very persistent mindset, though, that all body issues (even obesity) are caused by external factors and that the sufferers are just helpless victims. I wouldn't expect that anyone trapped in the "my type 2 is out of my control, but the cure is just around the corner" mindset is going to be welcoming of the crash diet research.

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