That all looks horrifying to me. Why do SF tech companies so love to treat their employees like children? I would not like to commute two hours a day to sit in a balloon pod or go to team camp "s'mores". I just want to focus on my work please.
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#162You would have thought with Microsoft running in tech industry for so long, newer companies would have learned from their mistakes.
You would have thought with Steve Jobs's Apple running in the opposite end of spectrum showing casing everything about Tech and Human interaction. All the changes that happened right in front of your face, People will learn something from it.
But No. Google managed to outdone everyone again. The absolute genius of Google managed to be even worst than Microsoft.
I have also noticed the PR of Google has been way worst for the past 5-6 years. I also notice the change in tone with Apple's PR tactics in the past 5-6 years. I wonder if those that used to work for Google's PR went to work with Apple.
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#163What the hell?! Give. Developers. Offices. With. Doors. It's conceptually simple, and will probably cost less than this novelty shit in the long run.
Some people like that, some people don't. The worst physical office environment I've ever worked in was one where I had an individual office with a door. It was an interior office with no windows, effectively a large closet, and it was pretty depressing and alienating. Maybe you could argue that you should give all developers offices with doors and exterior windows. But the dimensions of most buildings don't make tha…
My worst work environment was also my own office with a door, in a former HP building with no windows, and I hadn't learned about vitamin D supplements yet.
Of course, the main problem was the thermostat was in the empty office next door so I couldn't close the door without it getting hot.
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#164If I need to wear a mask, I don't need to be in an office. This is horrifying.
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Not everyone want that, if I need my own private space I don't need to go to office. The reason I may want to go to office is to see my coworkers. Doors/private cubicle defeat the purpose.
Nothing about having a private office precludes seeing coworkers. In the heady days of my long-lost youth when I still had an office, I stepped outside of it when I wanted to see my coworkers and went back inside and locked the door when I didn't.
And you were likely much less efficient because of less interaction with your more knowledgeable colleagues. You don't know what you don't know.
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Yeah I'm never returning to the office. VP exception or bust. I'm frankly stunned that the company seems to be completely okay with the attrition they are going to see in September.
the company doesn’t care about employees below a certain level. there’s hundreds of thousands of them and many more clamoring to get in. i still haven’t forgiven them for cancelling promos a year ago
I'm an L6. I know a handful of L7s who are looking at remote options. Attrition won't just be among junior engineers.
Did you get promoted in the fall? Between backfilled raises and manager discretion comp, my experience has been that the cancelled perf ended up working out alright for most people, except those with failed promos who needed to respond to committee feedback.
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#168Why would I want to come back into the office if I have to wear a mask?
> Why would I want
You don’t want, they tell you to. It’s like this in most companies now.
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Or, you know, have everyone "dial in" from their own computer. That was how a number of teams I work with were pre-pandemic. If anyone's remote, everyone calls in separately. Otherwise the remote experience is inherently going to be worse than the in-person one. That's been one mildly positive aspect of the pandemic. I'm no longer dialing into calls where there are a bunch of people in a conference room and then ther…
You need private offices or the feedback gets really bad really quick.
With headsets that works.
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Or, you know, have everyone "dial in" from their own computer. That was how a number of teams I work with were pre-pandemic. If anyone's remote, everyone calls in separately. Otherwise the remote experience is inherently going to be worse than the in-person one. That's been one mildly positive aspect of the pandemic. I'm no longer dialing into calls where there are a bunch of people in a conference room and then ther…
You need private offices or the feedback gets really bad really quick.
People wear headsets. There are a lot of office jobs where people spend a lot of the day on the phone anyway talking to external people, people in other offices/remote, etc.