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What's the benefit to a true Linux phone over running LineageOS? LineageOS at least is essentially Android, so the ecosystem is there.
Sure, LineageOS can patch things out, but keeping the patches working over time as Google churns out new Android versions is far from simple.
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> Doesn't the protocol already need to do something to support that? Presumably it's an out-of-band notification, and they needed to add support for that. Yep, it does, so you could do this; the problem for the Linux desktop is just that there isn't a standardized out-of-band push notification system yet. (I saw another commenter mention UnifiedPush, which sounds interesting - in any case it's not widely supported ye…
Re: jabber https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0352.html
Although now that I read the spec again, it seems general enough that maybe it could be used to implement behavior like that? I don't think I've seen any servers that do, though.
Openmoko failed for so much more than financial reasons. It's been a while since I've thought of that fiasco, but my memories: * The leadership was terrible. They had no clue what it took to make a mass market product. They just assumed that they would sell hardware and a community would provide a working operating system and apps magically. * The hardware was buggy. There was one issue that if you let the battery dr…
Openmoko failed for so much more than financial reasons. It's been a while since I've thought of that fiasco, but my memories: * The leadership was terrible. They had no clue what it took to make a mass market product. They just assumed that they would sell hardware and a community would provide a working operating system and apps magically. * The hardware was buggy. There was one issue that if you let the battery dr…
>I was so done with it that I just dropped it in the trash (after wiping it, of course). next time you have an urge to throw a battery-equipped device into the trash(!?), consider donation. you may not like the device but someone out there may be thrilled at the chance to de-solder some useful components.
Anyone know of any good Linux phones. Mine is going to be dead soon and for a while I liked Pixel because it didn't have all the Samsung or Motorola or anytime else bloatware, but with what Google has been doing I'd prefer a full Linux phone. I've looked a Librem but $1500 is kind of hard to justify when I have all my other expenses that come with a young family. Anyone have any suggestions?
The idea is you buy one of the supported Xperia phones, buy a Sailfish OS license and flash it on the phone. The license you bought pays for continued software updates (new features & security fixes) as well some external software they integrate (predictive typing support & android app emulation support). Yeah, if the native Sailfish OS apps are not sufficient for you, it can also run most Android apps via an emulation layer.
So while Sailfish OS is not fully open source unfortunatelly, it's at the moment IMHO the best mobile Linux distro available on easy to get modern hardware.
Ideally over time fully open source distros and more open hardware take over but till then Sailfis OS can serve as a good "bridge", AZ it has since the Jolla company taking care of it was started by the ex N900/Maemo/MeeGO crew.
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>I was so done with it that I just dropped it in the trash (after wiping it, of course). next time you have an urge to throw a battery-equipped device into the trash(!?), consider donation. you may not like the device but someone out there may be thrilled at the chance to de-solder some useful components.
Most of the hardware I've ever owned I still have, either in working order or as component boards decorating my walls. I recall my emotion when disposing of the Freerunner was that it didn't deserve an epic funeral (the laser) or even the honor of being properly disassembled.
Everyone: please do not do this. Dispose of your battery-powered devices somewhere that's equipped to handle them.
(Now, the Openmoko phones had a removable battery, so it's possible you didn't toss that out with it. Then it's "just" e-waste rather than explody e-waste.)
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, Android/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Android plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Android system made useful by the Android corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
I think you're joking, but unironically yes; Android/Linux is Linux, just like GNU/Linux and busybox/Linux (or however you want to call Alpine).
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I can't think of an Android app I'd prefer over a Linux alternative. Edit: Maybe Google Maps, but that's it.
What would you like for Email on your phone from the Linux world? A web browser? Contacts app? These are essentials for the phone. What about an RSS client?
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I think you're joking, but unironically yes; Android/Linux is Linux, just like GNU/Linux and busybox/Linux (or however you want to call Alpine).
the parent comment is riffing on a copy/paste meme based on a rant attributed (likely falsely) to RMS: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Interjection