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We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by cratermoon »

disabled wrote: post #274
cletus wrote: post #126

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At this point, the snide dismissal of all things advertising is nothing short of boring. To be sure there are many forms of advertising annoyance: auto-playing sound/video, remarketing (or what I like to call advertising a product I've already bought), interstitials, popups (to be fair, there are many non-advertising forms of these eg "sign up to our newsletter" dialogs) and so on. But what made Google a money-printi…

This is a thoughtful post. However, the issue is that these advertisements play into your hopes and fears to maximize the likelihood of getting a click from you. The fact that Google (especially) and other adtech companies are playing into your hopes and fears, by microtargeting and hoarding the most private and intimate details about your life is abusive. I have to say that I am lucky that I have a print-related dis…

Free books? What kind of socialism is that? /s

Seriously though, "Imagine there was no such thing as a library, and that members of the current neoliberal policy consensus were to sit down today and invent it." https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/citizen-coup...

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by cratermoon »

erezsh wrote: post #362
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #106

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https://imgur.com/t/funny/fjqdCZz I like the whole quote. There’s one more gem in the middle. It shows they were good once. That they know. Any chance it can return?

No. I don't think it's in their hands anymore.

Systems work in funny and unexpected ways. When they started their company Brin and Page may have truly believed they could go in the non-profit direction. But the forces at play in late capitalism worked inexorably to extract value, and little by little, possibly before they realized it, Brin and Page were no longer in control of what they created.

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Post by galaxyLogic »

prepend wrote: post #222
dheera wrote: post #134

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From the article > 12-moth plan > 6-month plan Why would a dating site have a 12-month plan, and why would a user of a dating site want a 12-month plan? Not only would you hopefully want to be off the site within 12 months, as soon as you found someone compatible, you would hopefully delete the app, but you've unnecessarily paid for months you will (hopefully) never use. I don't understand why anything but month-to-m…

The incentive for the dating app is to keep you unsatisfied, but with some hope, to keep dating and failing over and over. Or I suppose the business models could be either “subscription” based where you keep using it forever or “contract” based where it’s a single fee. I think the okcupid papers called out how free dating is better aligned with users because they wouldn’t have to compete with the natural tendency to…

That is true. At the same time this viewpoint makes me wonder, what about doctors? Isn't it in their interest to keep us sick so we keep on coming back? And the policemen and prison industry, if crime disappeared they would lose their business. And firefighters too.

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Post by galaxyLogic »

marcusverus wrote: post #411
heterodoxxed wrote: post #288

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I don't know if you want to open the can of worms that is "accidental deaths from mismanaged resource distribution" under capitalism. Global deaths from hunger result in one great leap forward every 5 years.

The fact that Capitalism has not (yet) solved the global issue of extreme poverty is hardly an argument against it. Particularly when it is the transition to capitalism which has done the most to solve the problem! After all, it's a simple matter of fact that the accelerating decline of global poverty since 1990 was the result of the transition to capitalism in formerly Communist/Socialist countries in Asia, includin…

I think comparing Capitalism and Socialism is a red herring. There is no "pure" Capitalism nor pure Socialism.

There are only countries with specific sets of laws governing them. The question is which system of laws is better and why and when and most importantly: Better for WHO?

Arguing that capitalism is the solution is like saying: Don't look here, we are better than socialist countries and therefore there is no need to improve anything in our country. Same for the other side too.

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Post by robertlagrant »

dqh wrote: post #416
robertlagrant wrote: post #408

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This isn't why, at all.

Care to elaborate on your certainty? Have you ever spoken with women about their experiences with online dating?

If you read my comment you'll see I'm not saying the other thing isn't true, just that it isn't a factor on why dating sites are set up this way.

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Post by freediver »

hajile wrote: post #3

The commercial opinion bit is incredibly annoying. Ask for an opinion and you’ll get 5 pages of custom built “review” sites that offer nothing useful besides copious ads and paid click-through to Amazon. Even when Google knows where I go with my searches, they still refuse to show those sites for anything that might have commercial interest. So much for customized search. I get tired of being the product. Can we get…

Yes, building one. Details in my profile.

Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis

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Post by dqh »

robertlagrant wrote: post #425
dqh wrote: post #416

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Care to elaborate on your certainty? Have you ever spoken with women about their experiences with online dating?

If you read my comment you'll see I'm not saying the other thing isn't true, just that it isn't a factor on why dating sites are set up this way.

How can you be certain of this in all cases.
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