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What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

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Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#11
When you have a child you rise to the occasion. I have way less doubt about how to live my life after kids than before kids.

I will say it takes a huge amount of support. Knowing what I know now I would not recommend having a kid without a partner and supportive family. But that goes without saying. Most people who are single parents didn’t plan to be.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#12
Having kids is a personal choice. In order to have them, you should want to have them. It's a gut feel. Conversely, if you don't, you shouldn't need any supporting arguments or evidence to justify that choice to someone else. It's your life. I get the sense that you already have the gut feel, but are looking for supporting evidence and I would ask "why?". The worst thing someone can do is have kids when they don't want to. Keep in mind, this gut feel can change over time.

My perspective: always had a gut feel that I wanted kids. Now have 3 young ones. Is it hard? Yes. Would my life be "easier" without them? In some ways (practically) and likely less so in others (emotionally, spiritually). Are there moments where I wish I was childless? Absolutely. Do those moments last and would I rather have a life without kids? No, not by a longshot. It's cliche, but I can't imagine a life as full and changing without them. Keep in mind I'm talking about me and my life here, not generalizing. A childless life can be just as fulfilling, if not more, for someone else.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#14

It will make you a better person. There's nothing easy about it. You'll have less time for selfish things. Your self control will be challenged as you try to maintain composure in many challenging situations. Some that involve diaper blowouts at 3am, the night before a big presentation. You'll be forced to adapt as your lifestyle changes. Old friends without kids will invite you out less. You'll find new friends with…

Gotta wonder about all those parents that missed the "make you a better person" memo.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#15
Little kids are a lot of work, especially if you don’t have redundancies like grandparents/aunts/uncles, or daycare and other little kids to entertain them.

If it’s just going to be you, the spouse, and the toddler stuck in a suburban house, I hope you genuinely enjoy playing with them a lot because they need constant attention.

Even after having kids, I think I’d be just as happy if I didn’t have them. I certainly wouldn’t want them if it was just going to be me and spouse, but luckily I can diffuse the responsibilities between daycare/grandparents/etc.

I also would lean towards not having them if I wasn’t completely financially secure and could afford them a home in a good neighborhood and colleges, but that’s due to me believing the income/wealth gap will continue to increase.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#16

Dealing with so much poop is actually not that bad.

That’s the least dramatic part.

Dating drama is exhausting.

Late teenage rebellion period is exhausting.

Nothing like years of effort, lectures, standards tossed out the window. Umm daughter, your boyfriends profile picture is of him sticking a can up his ass. “”He loves me!, your stupid””

For younger ones chore battles are my current stress point.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#17

It will make you a better person. There's nothing easy about it. You'll have less time for selfish things. Your self control will be challenged as you try to maintain composure in many challenging situations. Some that involve diaper blowouts at 3am, the night before a big presentation. You'll be forced to adapt as your lifestyle changes. Old friends without kids will invite you out less. You'll find new friends with…

"make you a better person" how incredibly arrogant,and I would argue having children is incredibly selfish. You are filling a need for yourself no-one else, there is nothing that couldn't be improved by less people on the planet.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#18

Try to read/watch the news every day for some time. Do you want to force someone to live on a planet where things happen which are a daily occurrence on ours?

What if I just don't read/watch the news every day? "Bad things" have happened as a daily occurrence for all of history - it's only now that there's an echo chamber and attention economy for this kind of trauma porn. All I'm trying to say is that "Do you want to force someone to live on a planet where things happen which are a daily occurrence on ours?" is a consideration that all of our ancestors had to consider, to…

So true. It's easy to think that our contemporary problems are somehow especially dire, but as a species our lives are incomparably better than any generation before.

If you were abount to be reincarnated and could pick a decade to be born, knowing that you would be born into a random family somewhere on earth, you'd be a fool to pick any decade in the past. Today, you'd have a ~10% chance of being born into extreme poverty. As recently as 1990, it was ~50%, while back in 1900 it would have been ~90%!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#19
As others pointed out, your life changes. Your priorities rearrange. Given that, no regrets for me. My kids give me joy my hobbies could never match. It's work but it's worth it and love being a father and raising my kids.

The key thing I learned is a new perspective, I understand my parents and other parents a lot more now.

Re: What you learned after having kids that questioned the decision of having kids?

#20

It will make you a better person. There's nothing easy about it. You'll have less time for selfish things. Your self control will be challenged as you try to maintain composure in many challenging situations. Some that involve diaper blowouts at 3am, the night before a big presentation. You'll be forced to adapt as your lifestyle changes. Old friends without kids will invite you out less. You'll find new friends with…

Gotta wonder about all those parents that missed the "make you a better person" memo.

Right?!

“Make you less selfish”… excuse me?

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