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Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

>“copyright strike” on her account, wherein three such strikes would mean permanent closure of the account

I think the three copyright strikes have to take place within 90 days. Unless I am confusing community guidelines strikes with copyright strikes.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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If this is Google being proactive about avoiding lawsuits, how come the same issue doesn't affect Patreon?

A number of 'reaction' channels have copyrighted content (full music videos) that is clipped on Youtube to avoid strikes. The full versions of these videos are on the uploader's Patreon.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Feed a computer with MIDI files of public domain music and render it as audio 2) Upload to YouTube 3) File copyright dispute to YouTube for any (future?) uploaded video which contains the music which used to be in the public domain 4) Have Google reject the videos 5) Create a site or an app which allows you to license that public domain music for a fee. 6) Notify YouTube who has licensed this public domain music.…

You have YouTube's content rating system backwards. It's not "racey content gets marked special" with "suitable for children" being a catch-all category. YouTube's "content developed for children", is the special case. It's explicitly content meant for and marketed to children, or content that children would be particularly attracted to, like nature documentaries. All other content should be marked "not intended for…

This was the email I got:

> We wanted to let you know that our team has reviewed your content and we don't think it's in line with our Community Guidelines. As a result, we've age-restricted the following content:

> Video: Komoot Bug

> We haven't applied a strike to your channel, and your content is still live for some users on YouTube. Keep reading for more details on what this means and steps you can take if you'd like to appeal this decision.

> What "age-restricted" means

> We age-restrict content when we don't think it's suitable for younger audiences. This means it will not be visible to users who are logged out, are under 18 years of age, or have Restricted Mode enabled. It also won't be eligible for ads. Learn more about age restrictions.

When I click on appeal I get a popup titled "Submit an appeal" with the body text of "Appealing this violation is not available"

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EDIT: Ah. I see. I actually did set it to "Is made for kids" thinking that this means that through this option I express that it does have no content which would be against the community guidelines.

I've now changed it to "Not made for kids" but also "Not age restricted".

Thanks for pointing this out.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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I’ve been working on a project converting my piano curriculum into a 42 week YouTube series (currently on week 34, almost there!) and one of the first challenges I ran into, other than sucking a video production, was what to do about teaching repertoire so as not to run into copyright claims.

I decided to compose my own material each week and it has turned out to be the best thing about producing the series. At first the idea of writing a new intermediate level piece each week seemed daunting but it’s actually been quite liberating. Also when I’m finished with the series I’ll be able to publish the collection as my own book of repertoire.

If you’ve been teaching for a while (like 10 years) I would highly recommend going beyond the safety net of pre published teaching repertoire and try making some yourself. Find the deeper connection to what you teach about music by encoding into, well, music! New music, that reflects your unique relationship with the craft.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

is worried about all the time she’s putting in to create content being usurped by a few bad actors

Is this where we must point out that the entire ContentID system was designed to protect bad actors, because it was written by them?

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

There is actually one more step available, even after the copyright strike: you submit your contact details and YT clears the strike and it’s up to the claimant to then issue proceeding against you outside of YT.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2807684

I have used it in the past and it works.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time that I’m speaking of it was the melody that was being claimed, not a specific recording.

I understand that that is what was claimed. I said that two actual and copyrightable performances of the same melody are arguably indistinguishable. Edit: How would an automated system know, that you did not just non-transformatively alter another person's performance, instead of performing yourself?

I have gained the impression that YouTube has two distinct techniques within Content ID, one for claiming melodies, and another for claiming specific recordings.

I’m absolutely confident that this is doing melody matching: these recordings are trivially distinguishable from any professional performance, with completely different instruments and playing styles, and with much lower quality singing.

For example, the most repeated claim was by “AdRev Publishing”, claiming “Crimond (The Lord's My Shepherd) - FirstCom” three times. (That song was also claimed once by “Capitol CMG Publishing and Adorando Brazil” as “The Lord's My Shepherd I'll Not Want”.) The first two times, I was accompanying with a piano-sound keyboard in the traditional four-part harmony—admittedly they sound fairly similar to one another; but in the third, an Indian was playing, using a piano-and-strings sound on a different keyboard, using Indian harmonisation (which is quite different).

I think we even had an unaccompanied song claimed once, matching throwaway0b1’s report.

These are completely different performances from whatever recordings the liars may have provided to the Content ID system. The melody is the only thing they will have in common.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Could we fix this (partially) by writing software that generates every possible piece of music and then upload it to YouTube? If you never claim copyright on the pieces, No one else could claim them in the future cause you uploaded it first. Now we only need a way to filter out all existing copyrighted music I guess
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