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Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

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Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#151

It's google. I can live without it. Do you?

What about copyright it self? If they have manage to abuse it even with google what are chances that they would not find a way to abuse it on smaller platforms?

In this situation here google is not willing to check if an automatism failed. I do not think that problem applies to selfhostetd content. But who knows, its a world where everything is possible....

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that white noise is random, a recorded copy of white noise is its own perfect watermark.

Does it depend on seeding that would eventually have tendencies for replication? Or could that be pushed out until practically forever?

If the white noise is based on a random number generator, the pattern would restart after a full cycle.

If the random number generator's period is 2^32 and you use one integer per sample, then at 44 kHz, you would have about a million seconds, or twelve days, before the RNG has gone through a full period.

Most RNGs have periods much higher than this. xorshift128 has a period of 2^128-1 and the Mersenne Twister's period is 2^19937-1.

So you could push it out until practically forever.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DMCA is bad but the undisputable claim and three strike systems is all of Google own doing

The video covers this aspect. Yes, the current system is bad, but it replaces a scary letter demanding cease and desists plus high damage payments and a resolution between extremely expensive lawyers. It surely is not optimal, but I doubt your common YouTuber could afford to fight claims in court.

DMCA replaces the scary letters. YouTube only responsibility is to collect claims and counterclaims. Common YouTubers can just accept the claim and mute content. Youtuber wanting a fight or that know the other party would never risk their frivolous challenge to go to court with the threat of perjury hanging on their head have a right to counterclaim and put the ball in the other party field.

YouTube instead decide to act as jury and will allow claimant to counter the counterclaim, and here lies the crux of the issue.

YouTube isn't protecting poor youtubers anymore than what DMCA already allows; YouTube is instead actively removing youtuber right to challenge the claim, putting all the power in the claimant, far above what DMCA mandates or requires.

And that decision to act as jury and judge and final unappealable authority in the claim process lies squarely on YouTube shoulders.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#155

Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

Here are the “copyright owners” as displayed to the pianist in YouTube’s interface:

- APRA_CS

- ECAD_CS

- SOCAN

- VCPMC_CS

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#156
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Upload videos to her own website. Problem solved.

Must be a bot. No one with a brain would actually think to post this.

That's apparently your first comment on HN. Please read the guidelines–your comment breaks quite a few.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html the "In Comments" part.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#157
post #46

Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

1) Feed a computer with MIDI files of public domain music and render it as audio 2) Upload to YouTube 3) File copyright dispute to YouTube for any (future?) uploaded video which contains the music which used to be in the public domain 4) Have Google reject the videos 5) Create a site or an app which allows you to license that public domain music for a fee. 6) Notify YouTube who has licensed this public domain music.…

> which is kind of bad, because now the support team must log-in with a Google account to YouTube in order to see the harmless but useful video.

Not only this, but in the EU* it requires verifying your age with a credit card or ID photo: https://i.imgur.com/gP20dXi.png

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#158

I can't understand why Youtube has no procedure to flag companies as "Wicca Moonlight” like scammer / troll so, after a certain number of infractions like that one ( pretending to be the rightful owner of the rights on BEETHOVEN music !), they are sanctioned in some way or banned. That to add some symmetry to the procedure to fight trolls trying to steal other peoples hard job.

Alphabet gets paid either way.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ehh, Google has gone to great lengths to ensure that the largest holders of copyright have their content libraries available to check against new uploads and apparently no lengths to ensure that public domain content is available for the same purpose.

The public domain doesn’t threaten to sue them.

It ought to.

Re: Piano teacher gets copyright claim for Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata [video]

#160

Summary for those that don’t want to watch the video : - Pianist creates YouTube video demonstrating how to play Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata - part of this video includes her playing Moonlight Sonata (of course) - YouTube has a new ‘feature’ that scans submitted videos prior to publication to identify potentially copyrighted material - her video is found to include copyrighted material. She is certain this is a mist…

Here are the “copyright owners” as displayed to the pianist in YouTube’s interface: - APRA_CS - ECAD_CS - SOCAN - VCPMC_CS

APRA is Australia & NZ, ECAD is Brazil, SOCAN is Canada, VCPMC is Vietnam.

APRA: Australasian Performing Right Association

ECAD: Escritório Central de Arrecadação e Distribuição

SOCAN: Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada

VCPMC: Vietnam Center for Protection of Music Copyright

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