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Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by dvdkon »

nehalem wrote: post #14
dvdkon wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got some thoughts on this. I've found that there are two approaches to centralised management of computers: Installing a pre-made all-in-one product with pre-programmed configuration options (Windows with mostly AD, GPOs) and having numerous automatable components that can be stitched together with scripts (UNIX, sometimes Windows with Powershell). I prefer the scripting approach, as it gives me much more flexib…

I agree about the two paths and I share a preference for the non-vendor one. Yet at the very least I need an OS that out of the box accepts say an email user@org.tld as username and automatically contacts org‘s directory to check for authorisation and pull email credentials at the very least. This seems so basic to me that it should exist outside of commercial solutions.

Well, there is FreeIPA, best compared to AD, but it's still much more complicated than what Chrome OS offers. I agree something as zero-setup would be great.

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by Yeri »

nehalem wrote: post #7

Somewhat off topic: Whenever I see these user-friendly Linux distributions I think they would be great for mass deployments in schools or similar. Is there any technology that gives Elementary (or similar distributions) a deployment workflow like Chrome OS; ie zero-config (for the user) to log into a central service and configuration of the user account while being easy to administer?

Zorin seems to be working on this: https://zorinos.com/grid/.

Never tried Zoring or Grid though.

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by agumonkey »

j-pb wrote: post #6

I'd love to use Elementary OS, but their use of Vala is just such a turn off. That language is dead except for a tiny gnome niche. If they wanted the mac devs for their sleek look and feel they could have switched to swift. And if they wanted to gain easy popularity they could have switched to rust. But vala... there is no developer pool to draw people from, and they're not apple where ObjC might have been an obscure…

Vala seemed very simple and if it's still solid enough for them to release a stable DE, I guess it's not a big issue. I hear your concern but it seems most people can adapt to Vala in a week.

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Post by swiley »

nehalem wrote: post #7

Somewhat off topic: Whenever I see these user-friendly Linux distributions I think they would be great for mass deployments in schools or similar. Is there any technology that gives Elementary (or similar distributions) a deployment workflow like Chrome OS; ie zero-config (for the user) to log into a central service and configuration of the user account while being easy to administer?

This sounds a lot like guix.

The company I work for uses puppet to deploy things this way (although I'm not sure I'd recommend that.)

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by demarq »

jacek wrote: post #8

It looks like there is still no fractional scaling out of the box (always possible with hacks). The elementary team has defended the choice not to introduce it before [1], but it just makes it unusable for me and many other users. KDE Plasma handles fractional scaling well. Gnome does it mostly fine on Wayland. Now you can also run Gnome on X11 with fractional scaling (at least with Pop OS [2]). There's a cost of run…

A DE is not “usable” because it doesn’t have fractional scaling?

The elementary team are in so much trouble! Catastrophe!

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Post by amaccuish »

I always run Elementary shortly after each release and then after a few months find myself coming back to pure Ubuntu after the rest of the ecosystem moves on and updates.

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by _xy8h »

demarq wrote: post #25
jacek wrote: post #8

It looks like there is still no fractional scaling out of the box (always possible with hacks). The elementary team has defended the choice not to introduce it before [1], but it just makes it unusable for me and many other users. KDE Plasma handles fractional scaling well. Gnome does it mostly fine on Wayland. Now you can also run Gnome on X11 with fractional scaling (at least with Pop OS [2]). There's a cost of run…

A DE is not “usable” because it doesn’t have fractional scaling? The elementary team are in so much trouble! Catastrophe!

In the age of high density displays, fractional scaling is a must. It's the first thing people will encounter that indicates that a DE is antiquated.

On a 11" display at 1920x1080, the alternative is to suffer resolution mismatch (which can introduce any number of artifacts depending on how the panel handles the input, the least of which is a blurry/fuzzy display) or drop the resolution fractionally for pixel accurate rendering.

I did not buy a 11" laptop with a FHD display to browse at 960x540.

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by sajithdilshan »

Elementary OS has truly come so far. I still remember the old days where it started as a Gtk theme and how excited I was back in early 2010s to try out the beta versions of Luna. Unfortunately haven't used it since I bought a MacBook, but I truly appreciate the effort by Elementary team to provide a well thought out aesthetically pleasing linux distribution.

Re: Elementary OS 6 beta

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Post by lordgroff »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #29

Elementary OS has truly come so far. I still remember the old days where it started as a Gtk theme and how excited I was back in early 2010s to try out the beta versions of Luna. Unfortunately haven't used it since I bought a MacBook, but I truly appreciate the effort by Elementary team to provide a well thought out aesthetically pleasing linux distribution.

I'm honestly always confused as to what makes Elementary (or Mac for that matter), so much more pleasing than the much maligned GNOME?

I'd like to understand because these discussions which often include "I'd use Linux but awful desktop" always leave me feeling like people are tapped in to a dimension I'm not privy to.

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