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How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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There is a certain sort of person who will be looking into the meaning of the word to find out what is offensive about it. And then getting confused because the etymology is "black" which is descriptive rather than prejudiced. The actual point, and the reason for the strange tip-toeing, is to do with some very rational effects around how groups signal. Any minority is always at risk from a majority. It helps to have…

The taboo also signals the majority group's inability to confront the real conflict at the heart of the racial relation. You're exactly right that the taboo is a form of white supremacist signaling. I'm not surprised that that makes you feel better about the taboo.

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post #7

In the Netherlands in the past two decades the word 'neger' (which corresponds roughly, but not exactly, to the American use of 'negro') has become a taboo word too, although it was already something you wouldn't use on its own for most of the twentieth century. The popular sweet known as chocolate-coated marshmallow treats was called 'negerzoen' in Dutch (negro's kiss) in the recent past, and it was boldly emblazone…

The Dutch equivalent word is actually "nikker", but that is so much taboo that many youths will never have heard about it.

Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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I think it's just a test to see how far out western media reaches. Hopefully far enough towards all experiencing inequality so they can pick out a word they can also ban. Just be left with one indiscriminatory word - money. lmao America the controller of world speech

Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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post #7

In the Netherlands in the past two decades the word 'neger' (which corresponds roughly, but not exactly, to the American use of 'negro') has become a taboo word too, although it was already something you wouldn't use on its own for most of the twentieth century. The popular sweet known as chocolate-coated marshmallow treats was called 'negerzoen' in Dutch (negro's kiss) in the recent past, and it was boldly emblazone…

> Is this broadening of the scope something that happens just here, or is 'negro' also slowly falling under the definition of the N-word in the US?

"negro," in American English, is basically equivalent to "oriental," in that it's not so much of an in-your-face offensive slur like the n-word, but it's an outmoded term that only someone like your grandparents or perhaps great-grandparents would be caught using, and then swiftly corrected. definitely still offensive if used in the presence of the contemporary person who was being dubbed as such, though.

for more information on this topic among many others, I would suggest checking out the podcast "Moe Factz with Adam Curry," wherein "American Descendent of Slavery" Moe and famously Dutch-raised white American Adam Curry talk about such issues. every episode they play this Malcolm X clip that summarizes the idea for their show (and shows just how recently "negro" was commonly used—within my parents' lifetime!):

> First the white man and the black man have be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so-called negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved—that's the only way that they'll ever do it.

Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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post #2

The N-Word: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqwj--wGEgY

When I was 16. I lived in the US for an exchange year and one of the cultural differences was how people dealt with profanity. I was baffled at how people tried to avoid bad words, yet still clearly invoking that word in my head. A few examples include: friggin, what the fudge/heck, gosh, darn it...

Whereas I back in Germany it would be socially accepted to say these things as they are.

Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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post #7

In the Netherlands in the past two decades the word 'neger' (which corresponds roughly, but not exactly, to the American use of 'negro') has become a taboo word too, although it was already something you wouldn't use on its own for most of the twentieth century. The popular sweet known as chocolate-coated marshmallow treats was called 'negerzoen' in Dutch (negro's kiss) in the recent past, and it was boldly emblazone…

The Dutch equivalent word is actually "nikker", but that is so much taboo that many youths will never have heard about it.

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Re: How the N-Word Became Unsayable

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post #7

In the Netherlands in the past two decades the word 'neger' (which corresponds roughly, but not exactly, to the American use of 'negro') has become a taboo word too, although it was already something you wouldn't use on its own for most of the twentieth century. The popular sweet known as chocolate-coated marshmallow treats was called 'negerzoen' in Dutch (negro's kiss) in the recent past, and it was boldly emblazone…

I am from and living in The Netherlands too.

I have talked with about every 'neger' I know about the word 'neger' and none of the negers had any objections to word neger in itself. And I talked about it with random negers too.

Just don't use it as a slur. The word is not much different than 'Belg' ( Belgian ).

The only people I know who get their panties in a bunch about the word 'neger' are virtue signalling white dudes and gals ( deugers ).

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